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Re: Price Tracking [dennisctc] by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2007 (1:29 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm)

Voila, dennis, brilliant timing.
 
Kudos.
 
$20k for a van that stickered at $29k is amazing. Depreciation almost doesn't matter, you didn't pay anything for it to begin with!
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Re: Price Tracking [dennisctc] by maryh3
Nov 30, 2007 (1:47 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Nov 30, 2007 1:12 pm)

Well you probably won't see $4500 rebate in the near future. Probably $3000 in the summer. I was aware of this but I did not want to wait forever. Got a good enough deal -- about $7000 off of MSRP. Got lots of trips planned in the near future so what the heck - enjoy my van. If the darn thing comes in on time!! When I first started looking there was only a $500 rebate. I had to decide between putting the $550 into my current van for its fuel pump verses donating it for a small write off and buying off the lot. Made the right decision because the rebate has gone up $1000, I learned about the EC program and got a number, now I can sell my van for more than the tax write off etc. I'm happy even knowing I could have done better if I waited even longer. I was afraid I would prefer the 09's too much and wait again!!
 
 The one thing about "values" though that does surprise me though is the value that options hold. When younger I thought that the base models would hold their relative values better than the top of the line model with all the add-ons. But it does not seem to follow my previous thinking. Options hold their value and they hold up the relative value of the vehicle itself.
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Re: Price Tracking [maryh3] by ateixeira
Nov 30, 2007 (1:53 pm)

Replying to: maryh3 (Nov 30, 2007 1:47 pm)

You bring up a valid point - some times you just need a car now.
 
One example is if you're about to end a lease, and need something to get to work the next day. Then you have less flexibility.
 
Even if you have a car now, there is the risk that something on it will break. Imagine paying several grand to rebuild a transmission while you're waiting for the rebate to increase.
 
I think $1500 is a good discount, so I can't blame you for not waiting any longer. In fact, your deal should make the people that bought theirs sooner a bit jealous.
 
Looks like right now Honda has the biggest discounts on their 07s. Then Dodge's discount on the 08s, followed by the smallest discounts on 08s from Toyota.
 
Of course, when Honda runs out of 07s, the 08s will probably have no discounts at all.
 
It's all in the timing.
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Re: Price Tracking [ateixeira] by artgpo
Nov 30, 2007 (5:48 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 30, 2007 1:53 pm)

I personally negotiated the deal on my son's 2008 Sienna XLE. The van was purchased for invoice minus holdback. The dealer was very willing to deal. I believe the 2008 Odyssey will be sold similarly.
 
A buddy of mine is a sales manager at one of the largest CLLC dealers in this area. When it came time to purchase a personal minivan he chose an Odyssey EX-L from a competing dealer nearby. He told me he would NEVER own a CLLC minivan due to all he problems and complaints experienced at that dealership. He also said anyone thinking about buying a CLLC 2008 mini in the first year had best think twice. Call it hearsay but that is what he said. My personal experience with a first year of introduction Chrysler product was a disaster and ended with Chrysler buying back the car under arbitration.
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10Best by ateixeira
Dec 03, 2007 (8:37 am)
You may not expect to see a minivan in the 10Best issue, but the quietest vehicle C&D tested in 2007 was....their Dodge minivan, at a whisper quiet 61 decibels.
 
Surprisingly that beat every luxury sedan they tested, many over $100 grand.
 
Kudos to Dodge.
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Re: 10Best [ateixeira] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2007 (8:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2007 8:37 am)

That's not bad, considering they kept weight competitive with others in the class.
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Re: 10Best [thegraduate] by dennisctc
Dec 03, 2007 (11:08 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 03, 2007 8:41 am)

Most of it is due to "quiet steel" used in floor pan and fire wall. It's two sheets of steel sandwiching a noise insulator. It doesn't add much weight and you process it the same as steel panels i.e...stamping/forming it
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Re: 10Best [dennisctc] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2007 (11:11 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Dec 03, 2007 11:08 am)

Ah, same idea Buick uses I think?
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Re: 10Best [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Dec 03, 2007 (11:15 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Dec 03, 2007 11:11 am)

Buick calls it Quiet Tuning though it may include the same material.
 
Ford uses the stuff on the F-150 pickup as well.
 
No matter - the proof is in the pudding, and that van just embarassed every luxury car C&D tested in 2007.
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Re: 10Best [ateixeira] by thegraduate
Dec 03, 2007 (11:17 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 03, 2007 11:15 am)

I wouldn't go that far. Buicks are quiet too, but that doesn't make them better than a louder MB or Audi.

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