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Replying to: hansienna (Nov 26, 2007 7:38 pm) I do have a very simple solution: Do not read this magazine or watch any of the frequent reports mentioned on the TV news.
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Replying to: artgpo (Nov 27, 2007 5:46 am) I rip up every mailing offering a subscription to CR as quickly as deceptive advertising for politicians. 
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...we have a discussion about Consumer Reports in the Smart Shopper forum. Comments: Consumer Reports/JD Power Rankings Please go there to discuss CR's credibility. AND, over in the Off Topic Chatter forum, there is a discussion on Politics. The topic here is comparing the 2008 minivans and that's it. Thanks for your cooperation! |
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It's funny how all you Honda fanatics, never replied to the truly awful buffeting effect of the Ody. with the 2 second row windows lowered. That's not a design flaw or a problem at all for you? Just simply overlooked or brushed aside? Be honest. Admit it. Rationale it away because you can open a front window when you don't nec. want to or tell a 2nd row passenger to close 1 window so you don't go deaf? Or what, you like the deafening sound because it's a Honda and it's the loudest and Best in Class #1 deafening, ear drum battering effect over other minivans? LOL (at least comparing it to the 2008 T&C). Did CR or all the other "professionals" point this out? Even test it? Forget to write about it? Deliberately not mention it? This is a great example, IMO, why one's personal experience can be more beneficial than any "professional" review. Maybe they should print the truth: Honda Ody. - worse buffeting effect over other minivans. Now that's something to be proud of. 
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Replying to: carcom2 (Nov 27, 2007 7:19 am) Because you're so gung ho on it, I'll try it sometime to see. On my dad's 2006 Grand Caravan, I don't think the 2nd row windows even go down. Personally, I'll take a higher grade of plastic all over the interior if it means more noise when the window is down. |
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Replying to: carcom2 (Nov 27, 2007 7:19 am) If you listen to the auto "experts" they will tell you not drive with open windows. Rolled down windows create drag in a modern car and thereby lowering fuel economy. It just makes no sense in an Odyssey or CLLC minivan equipped with automatic climate control to ever lower the windows. I know the Odyssey has a cabin air filter to help remove dust and dirt and would assume that a van as advanced as the '08 CLLCs would have the same. Open windows negate the advantage of this beneficial feature. |
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Replying to: carcom2 (Nov 27, 2007 7:19 am) If the buffeting issue is all you want to bring against the Odyssey (since you continue to do so) you should drive my aunt's 2005 EX. You'd like it.
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When you open the 2nd row windows, it's usually to say goodbye to someone, or to see something when we are sightseeing. In every one of those instances, the front windows also go down. I can't think of a single time when I have both 2nd row windows open and not the front. I don't think that happens often, if ever. (we don't own an Ody, BTW). |
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Replying to: artgpo (Nov 26, 2007 2:38 pm) On this one I have to disagree. I paid $19,200 for a Subaru Forester in 1998, and 8 years later I got $5550 for it. 29% of what I paid, not bad. The KBB value was much higher than the Jeep Cherokee Sport that I also considered for about the same price. Except the Jeep was worth a couple thousand less after 8 years. In fact, the Jeep Grand Cherokee had a KBB value $600 less than my Forester, despite costing $6000 more when new. It matters. Even after 9 years, we're talking a difference of thousands of dollars. Imagine on a $30,000 purchase. The difference grows proportionally. Getting a good deal when you buy is more important, but residual values even after 9 years will matter more than most people think. That will be the down payment on your next vehicle. I'd rather have $5550 down vs. ~$3000 down from a Cherokee. |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 26, 2007 6:28 pm)
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