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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2007 8:53 am)
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Replying to: dennisctc (Nov 15, 2007 9:35 am) Wow, I thought we were talking about sound being perceived. Where'd the Stability Control argument come from? Edmunds tests cornering with cars with Stability Control on I believe. It is "on" in both vehicles. Because Chrysler chooses lower thresholds, it has worse abilities (although safe) at the limit. It sounds like you want Edmunds to make excuses for Chrysler, when in fact both vehicles use the same handicap. The "reality" is that Honda (and its VSA) corners faster. And, before someone says "these aren't performance cars" to me citing a "who cares" attitude, just remember I didn't bring this up please.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Nov 15, 2007 9:02 am) It had everything but the AWD. I need to stop at dealership for RT test drive. I'll check out the XLE, I really just need a tow package and backup camera to hitch up my RV easily.
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According to the IIHS for 2008. Honda/Acura had 7 vehicles on the list, as did Ford/Mercury/Volvo. Chrysler/Dodge had zero. Link to MSN Article about IIHS |
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2007 9:40 am) You're almost there, turn both off and see what the difference is. Honda's VSA allows it to corner faster because Honda feels that's a safe limit for their customers. Dodge has a different standard and their stability control kicks in at a lower speed preventing it from cornering any faster. It's not an excuse. C&D pointed this out in their comparison. |
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Replying to: dennisctc (Nov 15, 2007 9:49 am) Dodge has a different standard and their stability control kicks in at a lower speed preventing it from cornering any faster. So, a Chrysler's setup is slower than a Honda's setup. Okaaaaay, the testing reflects that. As most people will leave it, the Dodge cornering limit is lower. I just don't picture many van drivers disabling S/C so they can corner faster. I do see them making an accident avoidance maneuver, in which case the Honda would be quicker.
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"Plus you say the Ody is quieter at idle and at full throttle, but let's fact it, how often are you in that state? A few seconds? You cruise at highway speeds for hours, hours, and hours. What matters is the highway noise level, and there the Dodge is more quiet (and the Toyota). " Did I not just post these numbers? The Dodge is NOT more quiet than the Odyssey at 70 mph cruise. Lets try this again, this time with feeling: DGC: Db Idle: 44.7 Db Full Throttle: 77.8 Db 70 mph Cruise: 70.2 Ody: Db Idle: 44.8 Db Full Throttle: 72.1 Db 70 mph Cruise: 67.2
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Replying to: thegraduate (Nov 15, 2007 9:54 am) You may want to check out the C&D issue, this may help you understand the difference. The Chrysler system isn't slower, it kicks in sooner, taking control sooner, preventing lost of control sooner. You never disable it
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Replying to: dennisctc (Nov 15, 2007 10:03 am) |
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Replying to: mfletou1 (Nov 15, 2007 9:57 am)
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