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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 23, 2007 4:23 am) That same consumer report cited two VW models ranked at the BOTTOM of the list for quality/repairs. I have nothing against any of the manufactures and make my comments based only on current data. I am a automotive expert who testify's in federal and state courts so I keep very up to date on quality matters. I admit I am a large Toyota fan , with many members of my family driving them for years------why ? Best quality in the world measured over the entire lineup.
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Replying to: formerdlr (Oct 23, 2007 9:55 am) "I admit I am a large Toyota fan , with many members of my family driving them for years------why ? Best quality in the world measured over the entire lineup. " Nice statement, but how about some facts to back it up. How are you defining "quality." Where are you getting your data? How much better in quality is Toyota over VW for example? or Ford. For example, if I buy a Ford Taurus instead of a Toyota Camry, how much more in repairs can I expect to pay over the next 5 years of ownership, since the "quality" of Toyota is better than Ford? Now that would be good information, versus just generally saying to buy Toyota versus VW because Toyota has better "quality." Maybe the VW owner will pay a few hundred more in repairs after 5 years of ownership of a VW, but if the better driving experience, ride, handling, etc are important to the buyer, then maybe it's worth a little more in repair costs to drive a vehicle with superior driving dynamics. |
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Replying to: formerdlr (Oct 22, 2007 1:22 pm) What generally is not so good w/ VW? Are they getting better. They have some nice looking vehicles inside & out.
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Replying to: carcom2 (Oct 23, 2007 4:57 pm) This will be very interesting, we should see the results in a few months at the North American Auto Show in Detroit. I'm guessing VW engines (diesel too) with very dif interior and exterior - since it'll be delayed a year after the DCX version. I'm hoping thats what the extra time was used for. With VW's experience bringing the Tourage (sp?) to market along with the Porsche version, this should be as well done? I would expect typical VW warranties too, not the Chrysler
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 19, 2007 9:42 am) I've got 1 kid with another coming. In our 2007 T&C with Stow N Go, my 2 year old daugher is in a forward facing Birtax convertible, a large one, in one of the 2nd row seats. I haven't decided what to do when the next child comes. For the time Num2 is in an infant carrier, that can go in the other 2nd row seat. The base is small and the seat tips pretty far forward for access to the 3rd row. The limiting factor of angle of tipping is how large the child seat is. Tipping the seat with the big Britax won't allow much space to get behind it. When it was reverse facing, it wouldn't tip at all with the front seat all the way back. With Stow N Go I may end up putting the older child in the 3rd row, rear facing in the 2nd row and stowing the other 2nd row seat most of the time. That allows easy acces to both children and entertainment for the infant. It also means I can get a guest in the middle row on occasion. The 3rd row is rather tight, so any car seat means only one adult next to child, so I'm actually down to a 6-passenger vehicle. I've got another month or so to figure that all out. Then there is my 5-passenger vehicle (front bucktes, rear bench) that I haven't decided if I want the two kids next to each other for occasional one more guest and deal with buckling the middle child all the time or if I just want to make it only a 4 passenger vehicle. It's a tall 4WD pickup, so reaching the middle is not easy.
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Replying to: dennisctc (Oct 24, 2007 2:44 am)
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Took a vacation in Tampa, FL, and must have seen a good dozen or so 2008 Grand Caravans. Can't say if they were rentals (we were in tourist areas the whole time) but they're definitely out there in numbers. Someone mentioned Chrysler dropped the wiper de-icers, that's a shame. My Sienna has those and I for one am glad they copied that nifty idea. CR dinged 3 Toyotas, but note the Sienna was not one of the models with lower reliability, in fact it's the most reliable van by far. The Sienna doesn't get the 6 speed from the Camry V6 that they complained about, so I doubt its reliability record will change. It still uses the proven 5 speed auto. It's good to see CR criticize Toyota, though, if only to assert their independence a little. |
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Replying to: carcom2 (Oct 24, 2007 11:28 am)
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Replying to: dennisctc (Oct 25, 2007 2:37 am) I've overcome that phobia.
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Replying to: carcom2 (Oct 25, 2007 6:48 am) The Ford had fit and finish issues, but the powertrain was OK. The Subaru was great. So I've had luck for the most part. |
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