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Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 22, 2007 6:31 am) If only the worst food-related mess was of the non-ingested kind  Leather, when well cared for, also resists wear better than regular upholstery. |
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Replying to: carcom2 (Oct 19, 2007 4:18 pm) VW's have a perception of good quality but it is a very false perception. Of all the products I represented Toyota was the best hands down ! formerdlr
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 19, 2007 9:42 am) Now, if we flip the seat back of the 2nd row pass seat, it makes a nice passage for a car seat to get into the 3rd row. The space is enough for an adult to pass, too. Typically, we get an adult and a child in car seat in both the 2nd and the 3rd row. Regards, - M.S. |
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Is it just me or do the new Chrysler minivans look like the old Kia Sedona from the backside? Be honest and look. We followed one the other day and then an older Sedona and, bingo, a match. No dig at Chrysler intended or implied. |
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Replying to: formerdlr (Oct 22, 2007 1:22 pm)
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 21, 2007 6:12 pm) I've never heard complaints about DCX MPG, I get 20 mpg around town, and 25 mpg on the highway - exactly what EPA said I should. I have seen many complaints though on Honda mpg in their threads, people getting nowhere near what they expected. The 2008 T&C, with the 6 spd tranny and 3.8 or 4.0 should do as well as any other minivan in MPG. |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 23, 2007 4:23 am) That same consumer report cited two VW models ranked at the BOTTOM of the list for quality/repairs. I have nothing against any of the manufactures and make my comments based only on current data. I am a automotive expert who testify's in federal and state courts so I keep very up to date on quality matters. I admit I am a large Toyota fan , with many members of my family driving them for years------why ? Best quality in the world measured over the entire lineup.
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Replying to: formerdlr (Oct 23, 2007 9:55 am) "I admit I am a large Toyota fan , with many members of my family driving them for years------why ? Best quality in the world measured over the entire lineup. " Nice statement, but how about some facts to back it up. How are you defining "quality." Where are you getting your data? How much better in quality is Toyota over VW for example? or Ford. For example, if I buy a Ford Taurus instead of a Toyota Camry, how much more in repairs can I expect to pay over the next 5 years of ownership, since the "quality" of Toyota is better than Ford? Now that would be good information, versus just generally saying to buy Toyota versus VW because Toyota has better "quality." Maybe the VW owner will pay a few hundred more in repairs after 5 years of ownership of a VW, but if the better driving experience, ride, handling, etc are important to the buyer, then maybe it's worth a little more in repair costs to drive a vehicle with superior driving dynamics. |
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Replying to: formerdlr (Oct 22, 2007 1:22 pm) What generally is not so good w/ VW? Are they getting better. They have some nice looking vehicles inside & out.
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Replying to: carcom2 (Oct 23, 2007 4:57 pm) This will be very interesting, we should see the results in a few months at the North American Auto Show in Detroit. I'm guessing VW engines (diesel too) with very dif interior and exterior - since it'll be delayed a year after the DCX version. I'm hoping thats what the extra time was used for. With VW's experience bringing the Tourage (sp?) to market along with the Porsche version, this should be as well done? I would expect typical VW warranties too, not the Chrysler
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