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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [hansienna] by awindram
Oct 21, 2007 (6:12 pm)

Replying to: hansienna (Oct 19, 2007 6:52 pm)

The 8 passenger Sienna was my original plan. Once I started to price and build them though, I realized that I couldn't get the higher end options on the LE. Even leather could only be added as an aftermarket option. Very Frustrating. I would imagine that most people wanting the 8 passenger would have kids. Especially if they are wanting the Front and Center "toddler" seat. So why is leather not an option!!! Don't most people with kids want leather? Seems like a huge oversight by Toyota to me.
 
So then I went Ody shopping. Honda has GREAT deals going on for the 2007's. I was pretty psyched about the Stow and Go 8th seat. But then I drove the Sienna and Ody back to back and fell in love with the Sienna. Much smoother ride and better acceleration. Also I loved the Silver Pine Mica on the Sienna.
 
T&C- Once I read the threads about its MPG I dropped it from the running.
 
I think I'm going to go with the 7 seat Sienna and push the middle row seats together. The kids are far enough apart in age that they don't fight. In fact the 4 year old is great at entertaining the 7 month old who is still rear facing.
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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [awindram] by bobw3
Oct 22, 2007 (5:30 am)

Replying to: awindram (Oct 21, 2007 6:12 pm)

What's the big deal with leather and kids? Stains in cloth can be easier to remove than in leather. Plus do you really want to press car seats and boosters deeply into leather and create permanent lines, indentations, scratches, etc?
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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [ by nastacio
Oct 22, 2007 (5:45 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 22, 2007 5:30 am)

What's the big deal with leather and kids?
 
You are right about the indentations. I had two car seats in our Murano for the past 2 years and after the last cleanup session (when we take them from the car for a complete detailing) two months ago, we misplaced the upper portion of the padding. The indentations seem to be going away but I wonder what happen if we hadn't noticed it sooner.
 
PS: Dried up milk is very difficult to remove from upholstery as some our furniture can attest.
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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [ [nastacio] by thegraduate
Oct 22, 2007 (6:31 am)

Replying to: nastacio (Oct 22, 2007 5:45 am)

Until I was much older, I never had a drink in the car unless there was a beach towel under me. Saved a lot of stains that way.
 
We never really ate in the car. Nothing that could stain anyway.
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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [ by nastacio
Oct 22, 2007 (12:13 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 22, 2007 6:31 am)

     We never really ate in the car. Nothing that could stain anyway.
 
If only the worst food-related mess was of the non-ingested kind
 
Leather, when well cared for, also resists wear better than regular upholstery.
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Re: new VW minivan [carcom2] by formerdlr
Oct 22, 2007 (1:22 pm)

Replying to: carcom2 (Oct 19, 2007 4:18 pm)

PLEASE do your self a favor and not even consider a VW minivan. As a former VW,Toyota, Nissan,Chrysler,and Mazda dealer I can assure you the quality of the vw will not even be close to any of the other minivans, My experience runs deep with VW not only as a dealer but also as a factory rep(sales and marketing) for VW and Ford.
 
VW's have a perception of good quality but it is a very false perception.
 
Of all the products I represented Toyota was the best hands down ! formerdlr
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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [awindram] by msindallas
Oct 22, 2007 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: awindram (Oct 19, 2007 9:42 am)

We have 2 car seat bases in a 7-seater Sienna. We moved the passenger side 2nd row seat to the center. One car seat occupies the drivers side 2nd row, the other the 3rd row middle seat (we use the anchors, so dont need the seat belts).
 
Now, if we flip the seat back of the 2nd row pass seat, it makes a nice passage for a car seat to get into the 3rd row. The space is enough for an adult to pass, too. Typically, we get an adult and a child in car seat in both the 2nd and the 3rd row.
 
Regards, - M.S.
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The Town and Country/Grand Caravan Sedona? by artgpo
Oct 22, 2007 (3:21 pm)
Is it just me or do the new Chrysler minivans look like the old Kia Sedona from the backside? Be honest and look. We followed one the other day and then an older Sedona and, bingo, a match.
 
No dig at Chrysler intended or implied.
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Re: new VW minivan [formerdlr] by bobw3
Oct 23, 2007 (4:23 am)

Replying to: formerdlr (Oct 22, 2007 1:22 pm)

I'd say that if you'r basing current car quality/reliabilty on experience over 10 years old, then you might want to think again. Consumer Reports are indicating that Toyota quality is going down to the point that for the first time in many years they won't be able to recommend some of the models, while Ford (for example) quality has been going up. So just be skeptical when you hear folks talking about their "experience" and find out how recent the experience really is.
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Re: How do you get in the back with carseats installed in the second row? [awindram] by dennisctc
Oct 23, 2007 (4:44 am)

Replying to: awindram (Oct 21, 2007 6:12 pm)

T&C- Once I read the threads about its MPG I dropped it from the running.
 
I've never heard complaints about DCX MPG, I get 20 mpg around town, and 25 mpg on the highway - exactly what EPA said I should. I have seen many complaints though on Honda mpg in their threads, people getting nowhere near what they expected.
 
The 2008 T&C, with the 6 spd tranny and 3.8 or 4.0 should do as well as any other minivan in MPG.

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