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Replying to: dennisctc (Oct 19, 2007 4:53 am) I think you meant black circles...red circles mean good! True...but what all of those black circles really indicates is that in comparison to vehicles with red circles, those with black circles will have more problems. So maybe 70% of the DCX will be without major problems while 80% of Odysseys trouble free, so the DCX owners you know are in the 70%. But that still doesn't change the comparison facts based on the CR data. You'll always find with statistics cases that don't fit in. With gas prices they'll say that the average price per gallon jumped 3 cents over the past week and make a big deal about it, while the stations around where I live jump 20cents in one day! And the data isn't evenly spread across the the US evenly, so while stats may show, for example, that 30% of the DCX will have mechanical problems, there won't necessarily be 3 out of the 10 folks you know driving DCX with problems. Your group could be 100% trouble-free. But there could be another group of 10 folks living in another state where 70% of their DCXs have problems. The point is not to necessarily infer that statistics will match your specific situation because they're based on thousands of data points. |
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Ok... lotsa info here: A reporter seeks to talk with owners and serious shoppers of any of the following 2008 models, and who are also parents: 2008 Dodge Caravan 2008 Toyota Sienna 2008 Honda Odyssey 2008 Mazda5 If you are interested in commenting on your experience, please reply to jfallon |
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So I've been lurking the minivan forums for weeks now. Gone on a few test drives. And one question still remains. How do you get people into the back seat when there are car seats installed in the second row? Yes, I know you can push the seats together to make a bench, but then you lose the console. Is this the only way to do it? Can a person squeeze behind the 2nd row seat without taking out the carseat? 7 passenger Sienna- 2nd Row seat flips forward- definitely impossible with a carseat installed Odyssey- I cant remember exactly, but I know it doesn't flip forward like the Sienna. T&C- ??? If anyone has knowledge about these I would greatly appreciate it. It would save me another trip back to the dealerships dragging along my 6 month old and 4 year old. |
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 19, 2007 9:42 am) |
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 19, 2007 9:42 am) |
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Has anyone seen any real pics on the upcoming VW minivan?
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 19, 2007 9:42 am) With only 1 child car seat installed, I squeezed between the 2nd row seats in either the 02 T&C LX or 06 Sienna LE. Best to keep Ody or Sienna 2nd row seats separated to prevent children fighting. I tried moving our right middle seat to middle position in our 06 Sienna but it was more difficult to squeeze past the seat on the right side than thru the middle. Have you considered the 8 passenger Sienna where you could put child seats in left and middle seats of 2nd row and take out the right middle row seat for easy access to 3rd row seats? Slide the middle seat of 2nd row forward to separate children to reduce ability to fight.
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Replying to: hansienna (Oct 19, 2007 6:52 pm) So then I went Ody shopping. Honda has GREAT deals going on for the 2007's. I was pretty psyched about the Stow and Go 8th seat. But then I drove the Sienna and Ody back to back and fell in love with the Sienna. Much smoother ride and better acceleration. Also I loved the Silver Pine Mica on the Sienna. T&C- Once I read the threads about its MPG I dropped it from the running. I think I'm going to go with the 7 seat Sienna and push the middle row seats together. The kids are far enough apart in age that they don't fight. In fact the 4 year old is great at entertaining the 7 month old who is still rear facing.
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Replying to: awindram (Oct 21, 2007 6:12 pm)
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Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 22, 2007 5:30 am) You are right about the indentations. I had two car seats in our Murano for the past 2 years and after the last cleanup session (when we take them from the car for a complete detailing) two months ago, we misplaced the upper portion of the padding. The indentations seem to be going away but I wonder what happen if we hadn't noticed it sooner. PS: Dried up milk is very difficult to remove from upholstery as some our furniture can attest.
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