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Bought '08 Sienna XLE by artgpo
Oct 02, 2007 (4:13 am)
Yesterday my son purchased a 2008 Sienna XLE with EVP#1, a couple minor options and the "Extra Mile Pkg". I went and negotiated the deal for invoice minus holdback.
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Re: Bought '08 Sienna XLE [artgpo] by dennisctc
Oct 02, 2007 (4:35 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Oct 02, 2007 4:13 am)

What's teh "Extra Mile Pkg"?? Warranty adder?
 
I noticed in C&D the Sienna was LE model? That's the base? Guess Toyota couldn't find a closer match for C&D?They put that up against an EX-L Ody? The Dodge was middle of the line for Chrysler.
 
For me I was impressed by Chrysler's quietness of their Dodge van, The T&C has even more sound insulation in it, so I would expect slightly better noise insulation - It's kinda important for me, that plus a great stereo with Ipod connection
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Re: Bought '08 Sienna XLE [dennisctc] by artgpo
Oct 02, 2007 (5:21 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Oct 02, 2007 4:35 am)

Basically another profit center for the dealer. It contains a spoiler, first aid kit, extra warranty coverage for tire, etc. Added over $1,400 to invoice.
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Re: Bought '08 Sienna XLE [dennisctc] by thegraduate
Oct 02, 2007 (6:09 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Oct 02, 2007 4:35 am)

Being right at $30k, the LE is closer to the EX Odyssey (with cloth). The base model is the CE (which equals the Odyssey LX). I think I remember saying that the options Toyota had were that more plebian LE, or the loaded-to-Lexus XLE Limited. Either way, it was going to be way off their target price.
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Re: Bought '08 Sienna XLE [thegraduate] by ateixeira
Oct 02, 2007 (8:44 am)

Replying to: thegraduate (Oct 02, 2007 6:09 am)

I shopped for 2007s, but back then the equivalents were:
 
Sienne LE pkg 3 = Odyssey EX
XLE pkg 6 = Ody EX-L
XLE pkg 7 = Ody EX-L RES
XLE pkg 8 = Ody EX-L NAV RES
 
There were minor differences, but that covered the big stuff.
 
I got the LE-3 for $25,247 on an e-quote. An Ody EX was $26,883 no-haggle. An EX-L was $29,052. All no-haggle prices in the DC area, by the way. Freight and fees included.
 
mfletou1: are you sure you can get an EX-L for $26k even? That's $3000 lower than the prices in May, so I find that unlikely.
 
Browns Honda is discounting the Touring by $3500, but add back $595 freight and $299 in fees, so it's really only $2606 discount. MSRP on an EX is $29,290, so even with that discount you're at $26,684 for an EX. That doesn't add up.
 
Of course Toyota changed things for 2008, now an LE with EVP 2 is the rough equivalent of an Ody EX. And the rebate is gone, but I was still able to price one at $25,221 no-haggle.
 
I'm finding the same thing I saw back in May - on the low-end at least, the Sienna is actually cheaper.
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Re: All they cared about was "fun to drive" [bobw3] by ateixeira
Oct 02, 2007 (8:45 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Oct 02, 2007 3:47 am)

It's mostly width. Sienna has more than 52" between the wheel wells, Honda has about 48". The well behind the 3rd row in particular is wider, because the torsion beam suspension is more compact.
 
Honda's rear suspension is more sophisticated (explaining the handling advantage) but it takes up more space so you lose a bit of cargo room.
 
artgo: congrats to your kid!
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Re: Bought '08 Sienna XLE [ateixeira] by mfletou1
Oct 02, 2007 (9:24 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 02, 2007 8:44 am)

Yes. Simply go to the Odyssey prices paid forum.
 
A big reason why is that unlike in May, there is $2000 manufacturer to dealer cash that essentially lowers the MSRP by $2k. Honda's got a ton of inventory out there and no '08s have hit the lots yet.
 
I can believe that for a low end minivan, Sienna may be cheaper, but Odyssey is a LOT cheaper right now if you want leather, etc. And even on a low end vehicle, you basically have to take $2k off the price for an EX so its pretty much on par.
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Re: Bought '08 Sienna XLE [mfletou1] by ateixeira
Oct 02, 2007 (11:28 am)

Replying to: mfletou1 (Oct 02, 2007 9:24 am)

I priced 2008 Siennas. The 2007s actually have a $2000 rebate as well. Thing is - around here they sold out!
 
Looks like the timing right now favors an 07 Ody, because Honda tends to introduce the new model year a little later.
 
Another thing - maybe that incentive is regional? I don't see it in Northern VA, at least not on the Touring model. Is the incentive only on the EX?
 
Timing is everything, eh?
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Re: Sienna models vs Odyssey models [ateixeira] by hansienna
Oct 02, 2007 (3:42 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Oct 02, 2007 8:44 am)

Sienna LE is NOT comparable to an Odyssey EX because the Sienna LE does NOT have separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger no matter how many Sienna option packages are added.
 
On the other hand, the Sienna LE has the outside temperature/compass and trip computer that is NOT available at any price on the Ody EX. I think the major difference of the Ody EX has more value than the Sienna major difference.
 
The Sienna CE has lower base price than the Ody LX and the Sienna LE has a lower base price than the Ody EX...BUT, there is LESS content on the base Sienna CE or LE than the Ody LX or EX.
 
I think the Sienna interiors look more elegant than the Odyssey but the Odyssey dash is more pleasant on the eyes when there is bright sunshine outside.
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Re: Sienna models vs Odyssey models [hansienna] by ateixeira
Oct 04, 2007 (8:56 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Oct 02, 2007 3:42 pm)

That's exactly why I wrote:
 
There were minor differences, but that covered the big stuff.
 
You trade off a few minor things. At least I consider auto climate control minor.
 
To me, personally, I happily gave up ACC (and the lazy susan storage bin) to gain the temp gauge, trip computer, tow prep package, roof rack cross bars, power 3rd row windows, puddle lamps, and a 3rd row that is capable of facing back for tailgate parties.
 
Consider these trade-offs, but in terms of major equipment they're still comparable, to me at least.
 
LESS content on the base Sienna CE or LE than the Ody LX or EX
 
Perhaps, but they cost less and offer packages to make up the difference. Note in my case I compared the LE pkg 3 to the EX.
 
I don't even think you can get a Sienna CE or LE without at least package 1 in some cases.

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