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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [bobw3] by hansienna
Sep 13, 2007 (8:40 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 13, 2007 5:11 am)

I do NOT plan to look and compare every measurement but feel you were less than completely honest to just quote those that favor the Odd and Sienna.
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [hansienna] by dennisctc
Sep 13, 2007 (8:46 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Sep 13, 2007 8:40 am)

One thing I noticed in comparing the interior space, the Ody may be the DCX vans by 4 cubic feet, but if you add in the space in Stow N Go, DCX wins. just a note.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [hause7] by aaron_t
Sep 13, 2007 (8:54 am)

Replying to: hause7 (Sep 12, 2007 7:25 pm)

Chrysler is the first with a one-touch power 3rd row seat, not power 3rd row seat. I don't know where Chrylser listed the X number of unique features.
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Re: I test drove 2008 T&C LX and I prefer it [tonyv1] by aaron_t
Sep 13, 2007 (9:17 am)

Replying to: tonyv1 (Sep 11, 2007 1:14 pm)

Just to note, here are the things a DGC SXT K package gets vs. DGC SE H package. The T&C 24H will be very similar, if not exactly the same, styling/trim aside.
 
3.8L vs 3.3L engine
6spd vs 4-spd transmission
Upgraded door trim materials
Leather wrapped shift knob & steering wheel
Illuminated front cupholders
Tachometer
115V AC power outlet
Dual power sliding doors (that can be manuall used instead with no extra resistence)
Courtesy/map lights
Rear dome light
Ambient lighting
Fog lights
Tip start (don't have to hold key in start position during crank)
Homelink garage door opener
3-zone climate control
Power adjustable driver's seat
6-speakers
Aluminum wheels
Body colored sideview mirrors
 
You can put whatever value you want on those items, but there is more than 20 peak horsepower, power doors and seats.
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [dennisctc] by bobw3
Sep 13, 2007 (9:19 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 13, 2007 8:46 am)

There's actually 6CuFt more in the Ody, and I just posted the measurements that were fairly different. I think 4" greater in the Ody legroom in rows 2 & 3 is significant, while the other measurements were all about the same.
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Re: Unique Features [ateixeira] by wwest
Sep 13, 2007 (9:43 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 07, 2007 11:28 am)

Don't know of, or see, anything you missed but a few overstatements are present.
 
DFI..Direct Fuel Injection.
 
Lexus GS & IS series have DFI engine but I haven't seen it indicated for any other Toyota/Lexus vehicle as of yet. DFI allows 12:1 compression ratio but requires a more extensive/expensive catalytic converter (oxygen in exhaust gasses).
 
And the Sienna AWD, actually F/AWD is highly, HIGHLY over-rated. The VC, Viscous Clutch, used to somewhat "faccidly", "rubber band" (NEVER fully locked) couple the rear driveline to the front was eliminated in the Sienna some time ago, 2004?
 
Not even the F/AWD RX350, now again equipped with the VC, is a sensible, "thinking man's" AWD vehicle IMMHO.
 
These days, like the RX330 series, the only way the Sienna's engine torque can be routed, nay, "forced", to the rear driveline is via application of both front brakes, and that ONLY after wheelspin/slip is detected on at least one of the front wheels. The Sienna's F/AWD system, like the TC, Traction Control, mode, the braking of the front wheels will be instantly accompanied by dethrottling of the engine so as to prevent overheating of the front braking rotors should the driver (try to) persist with a high engine torque output.
 
And there is an additional danger since tire chains cannot be safely used on the Sienna in the adverse wintertime conditions wherein their use might be otherwise an ordinary course of events.
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [bobw3] by marine2
Sep 13, 2007 (3:24 pm)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 13, 2007 9:19 am)

I think leg room does make a difference in the second and third row, depending on who your carrying. If we're talking about tall adults, it could mean a big difference in comfort. If talking on mostly kids, I don't think it would make much difference at all.
 
Also not sure how much six cubic feet would make a difference. With my stow-n-go seats, I can stack in a number of 4X8 sheets of sheet rock or plywood easily in my van and the convenience of not having to take the seats out to do it would weigh heavily in it's favor.
 
Again, it has to do with what your going to use your van for, what kind of features you want and who your hauling, as to what you should buy. Every person has different wants and needs. I just think Chrysler covers more of them. But if your only buying it as mainly a people hauler, Honda or Toyota both would be excellent buys.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [bobw3] by carcom2
Sep 13, 2007 (4:46 pm)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 12, 2007 4:38 pm)

Here is info on the Nissan Quest - the most 2nd row leg room out of all these.
 
This question is for all you minivan shoppers/posters : What's wrong w/ the newest Quest? Not much mention of it ever in these comparisons. It seems like a pretty decent well equipped minivan with avail. dual DVD's & cool Skyview roof. And many improvements have been made in the latest update. And it's interior & exterior are not the usual stuff for a minivan. So like all minivan's out there, someone will find some features not on one while on another. But again, why is there such little interest on a unique looking Nissan Quest? Is is just being overlooked? No one seems to want to volunteer info. on this van. What's up?
 
Exterior
  
Wheelbase 124
Overall length 204.1
Overall width 77.6
Overall height with roof rack 71.9
 
Interior
Head room (front/second/third)
    without SkyView 41.7/41.7/37.6
    with SkyView 40.5/42.8/37.6
Leg room (front/second/third) 41.7/42.1/39.6
Hip room (front/second/third)) 65.6/67.4/50.0
Shoulder room (front/second/third)
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [marine2] by bobw3
Sep 14, 2007 (5:44 am)

Replying to: marine2 (Sep 13, 2007 3:24 pm)

I agree...if your van needs are for people, then go with an Odyssey or Sienna. But I'd say that if you're really using the van for cargo a lot, then you could just remove the 2nd row of the Ody or Sienna and just leave them out. If you did carry the occasional passenger you could just use the 3rd row and give them endless legroom.
 
That why I don't see the big advantage of the StowNGo. For folks with carseats in the 2nd row, they won't use the StowNGo much. And how often is someone driving around then all of a suddent want to carry 4x8 sheets of plywood? Plus if you're able to slide in and pull out 4x8 sheets of plywood, removing the 2nd row seats should be pretty easy.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [carcom2] by carzzz
Sep 14, 2007 (8:51 am)

Replying to: carcom2 (Sep 13, 2007 4:46 pm)

Nissan Quest is an unrefined van (PERIOD)
 
1) POOR RELIABILITY (brake, transmission, electrical)
2) Harsh engine noise anywhere above 2k rpm; many vibration on steering/seat/cargo
3) The 2nd row seats has a sloped floor (on the foot area)
4) lack split fold 3rd row
5) lack scroll down 2nd row windows
6) Full of rattle, even on 2007 Model
8) 3rd row is seat tiny(small cushion/seat bottom). When you seat there, your shoulder is at the top of the headrest.
9) the cargo is least in class
10)ugly
 
Test drive one and then try sienna/odyssey, then you will know what i am talking about!

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