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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [marine2] by hause7
Sep 12, 2007 (7:25 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Sep 12, 2007 2:29 pm)

Chrysler has been putting out false info on there new Town&country. It is not the first minivan with a subwoofer, the Odyssey has an 8 inch sub as does the Nissan Quest, and the Sienna offers the biggest at 10 inch sub with the JBL system. It is not the first to offer power 3rd row, the 06-08 SIenna has it on limited models. The Sienna has AC outlets with the DVD player, and the SIenna offered HID headlights first and it offers Adaptive cruise control. The old Toyota Previa had the 2nd row seats that swiveled, so i don't see how thats new.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [hause7] by marine2
Sep 12, 2007 (10:03 pm)

Replying to: hause7 (Sep 12, 2007 7:25 pm)

Chrysler has been putting out false info on there new Town&country. It is not the first minivan with a subwoofer, the Odyssey has an 8 inch sub as does the Nissan Quest, and the Sienna offers the biggest at 10 inch sub with the JBL system. It is not the first to offer power 3rd row, the 06-08 SIenna has it on limited models. The Sienna has AC outlets with the DVD player, and the SIenna offered HID headlights first and it offers Adaptive cruise control. The old Toyota Previa had the 2nd row seats that swiveled, so i don't see how thats new.
 
Not sure if Chrysler put it out or not, but the Oct. issue of Motor Trend says,(including a minivan first subwoofer)in parenthesis. The swivel seats might not be new, but it looks like the Chrysler vans are the only one having them now. I don't think any of the minivans offered a table to go with them, even before.
 
The thing is, all the standard and options you can get with this van that aren't offered with the other minivans. Even if you take away the subwoofer, the list is pretty long. Depending on what a family wants, there is a model for most everyone. Although, I would never buy the base model. That looks really cheap.
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Re: Base model looks cheap? [marine2] by hansienna
Sep 13, 2007 (3:15 am)

Replying to: marine2 (Sep 12, 2007 10:03 pm)

The base GC SE looks cheap because it IS relatively INEXPENSIVE.
 
On the other hand, the base Sienna or Odyssey does not look cheap because each IS EXPENSIVE. Both EXPENSIVE Ody LX and Sienna CE or LE minivans can NOT be equipped with the comfort of separately controlled temperature for driver and front passenger (that is optional on every GC SE except the base SE for a reasonable price).
 
After driving the Sienna LE for 20+ months, I would gladly give up the nicer looking interior for the luxury of separately controlled temperature for the driver and front passenger.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [hansienna] by bobw3
Sep 13, 2007 (5:11 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Sep 12, 2007 7:08 pm)

WHERE are the other measurements like Shoulder Room, Hip Room, Head Room, Cargo capacity behind 2nd row and total cargo capacity behind 1st row with ALL seats down or out?
  
You can look for yourself if you want to see more data or for the Sienna. I don't have the time to copy/paste everything for you
 
This was for an '08 T&C and I think the 07 & 08 Ody are identical. I was only identifying these measurements because they were different. Some of the other measurements (hip, head, shoulder) were about the same.
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [bobw3] by hansienna
Sep 13, 2007 (8:40 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 13, 2007 5:11 am)

I do NOT plan to look and compare every measurement but feel you were less than completely honest to just quote those that favor the Odd and Sienna.
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [hansienna] by dennisctc
Sep 13, 2007 (8:46 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Sep 13, 2007 8:40 am)

One thing I noticed in comparing the interior space, the Ody may be the DCX vans by 4 cubic feet, but if you add in the space in Stow N Go, DCX wins. just a note.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [hause7] by aaron_t
Sep 13, 2007 (8:54 am)

Replying to: hause7 (Sep 12, 2007 7:25 pm)

Chrysler is the first with a one-touch power 3rd row seat, not power 3rd row seat. I don't know where Chrylser listed the X number of unique features.
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Re: I test drove 2008 T&C LX and I prefer it [tonyv1] by aaron_t
Sep 13, 2007 (9:17 am)

Replying to: tonyv1 (Sep 11, 2007 1:14 pm)

Just to note, here are the things a DGC SXT K package gets vs. DGC SE H package. The T&C 24H will be very similar, if not exactly the same, styling/trim aside.
 
3.8L vs 3.3L engine
6spd vs 4-spd transmission
Upgraded door trim materials
Leather wrapped shift knob & steering wheel
Illuminated front cupholders
Tachometer
115V AC power outlet
Dual power sliding doors (that can be manuall used instead with no extra resistence)
Courtesy/map lights
Rear dome light
Ambient lighting
Fog lights
Tip start (don't have to hold key in start position during crank)
Homelink garage door opener
3-zone climate control
Power adjustable driver's seat
6-speakers
Aluminum wheels
Body colored sideview mirrors
 
You can put whatever value you want on those items, but there is more than 20 peak horsepower, power doors and seats.
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Re: WHY just the measurements that favor the Odd and Sienna?. [dennisctc] by bobw3
Sep 13, 2007 (9:19 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 13, 2007 8:46 am)

There's actually 6CuFt more in the Ody, and I just posted the measurements that were fairly different. I think 4" greater in the Ody legroom in rows 2 & 3 is significant, while the other measurements were all about the same.
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Re: Unique Features [ateixeira] by wwest
Sep 13, 2007 (9:43 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 07, 2007 11:28 am)

Don't know of, or see, anything you missed but a few overstatements are present.
 
DFI..Direct Fuel Injection.
 
Lexus GS & IS series have DFI engine but I haven't seen it indicated for any other Toyota/Lexus vehicle as of yet. DFI allows 12:1 compression ratio but requires a more extensive/expensive catalytic converter (oxygen in exhaust gasses).
 
And the Sienna AWD, actually F/AWD is highly, HIGHLY over-rated. The VC, Viscous Clutch, used to somewhat "faccidly", "rubber band" (NEVER fully locked) couple the rear driveline to the front was eliminated in the Sienna some time ago, 2004?
 
Not even the F/AWD RX350, now again equipped with the VC, is a sensible, "thinking man's" AWD vehicle IMMHO.
 
These days, like the RX330 series, the only way the Sienna's engine torque can be routed, nay, "forced", to the rear driveline is via application of both front brakes, and that ONLY after wheelspin/slip is detected on at least one of the front wheels. The Sienna's F/AWD system, like the TC, Traction Control, mode, the braking of the front wheels will be instantly accompanied by dethrottling of the engine so as to prevent overheating of the front braking rotors should the driver (try to) persist with a high engine torque output.
 
And there is an additional danger since tire chains cannot be safely used on the Sienna in the adverse wintertime conditions wherein their use might be otherwise an ordinary course of events.

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