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Re: Can power slide door motors be temporarily disengaged [aaron_t] by ateixeira
Sep 12, 2007 (12:45 pm)

Replying to: aaron_t (Sep 12, 2007 11:57 am)

When you are driving the family up through the hills, and you have a heavy payload of 1000 lbs or so, or especially when towing, you will notice the difference.
 
The more powerful engine will be able to maintain speed, the weaker one won't. If you set cruise control you'll notice it will downshift at first, then lose speed, then disable cruise completely.
 
This was quite humling in a '91 Escort GT I used to own. I always felt it was quick, 0-60 and all. But load it up with 4 people and luggage and at altitude it had to limp up a hill even with a seemingly decent 127hp.
 
A much heavier van with less than 200hp would likely struggle in the same way. I don't want to be that guy limping slowly in the right lane trying to make it up that long uphill, all while being tailgated by big trucks.
 
Some times power is indeed a safety feature.
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Re: Can power slide door motors be temporarily disengaged [ateixeira] by bobw3
Sep 12, 2007 (1:30 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 12:45 pm)

So basically you're saying if you compare 2 vehicles, more HP is always better...I don't buy it. The lower HP vehicle may be able to do all those things you mentioned, and get better mpg. The one with higher HP may be able to do it faster, but they both may make it up the hill at 70mph. Just the one with the more HP could do it at 100mph while the one with the lower HP may only be able to do it at 80mph. Both within reasonable driving use.
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mini vans by jimlockey
Sep 12, 2007 (1:31 pm)
Mini vans keep getting larger, more extras, bigger gas engines that get less and less mpg.
 
I've had four and don't want any more until they make one like those first vans, but they must "average" around "35 MPG"...........
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Sep 12, 2007 (1:52 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 9:27 am)

I think Marine's point was that Dodge integrates all these into their minivans. Sure, many of these features are available on SUVs/Cars/Trucks but DCX combines them all in their Minivans. I don't believe anyone else offers a backup camera in their minivans but I could be wrong. Same with ipod connections, hard drives....
 
BTW - I know Visteon Corp built the first voice recognition systems for Nissan about 6 years ago. My company, Tyco Electronics, supplies some of the components. Honda came later.
 
Chrylser offered built in childs seats about a decade ago, before the 1996 minivans. I don't know why they dropped them later on?
 
My 2001 BMW had LED lighting, and again, Tyco Electronics supplies both BMW and DCX with light pipes and LED lighting. The LEDs last forever, use very little energy, doesn't distract the driver and helps to differentiate DCX from their competitors.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [ateixeira] by marine2
Sep 12, 2007 (2:29 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 12, 2007 9:27 am)

Sounds like you picked up a brochure and simply listed every feature. I was looking for unique features.
 
Without going back and looking, I don't remember you saying what unique features Dodge had over the Toyota. You said what you had on yours and asked what the Dodge had on it. If not mistaken.
 
Let's see, the integrated car seat, no one else has (on a minivan) which is what we are comparing right? No one has the television, Chrysler has the battery saver. I know Honda doesn't have that unless they just added it. Not sure about Toyota. Could you show me where another minivan has a sub woofer? I had read Chrysler was the only minivan to offer it. Only one to have a rechargeable flash light. I think they are also the only one to offer a AC/DC converter.
Does the others offer a big hard drive to play music and view photos on their screen? Remote start built into the key fob. Third row, auto one touch seat. Swivel second row seats. Only one to offer halo lighting. Many have dual DVD screens, but can't play separate movies, Chrysler's can. Self adjusting front shocks. An umbrella holder. Stow-n-go seating.
 
 These are the things I can think of off my head.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [marine2] by bobw3
Sep 12, 2007 (4:38 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Sep 12, 2007 2:29 pm)

The T&C, Ody & Sienna are about the same dimensions on the ouside, but on the inside from the manufacturer webpage (and the Sienna is actually bigger inside than the Ody!):
 
Legroom rows 1/2/3
Ody 40.8/40.0/41.1
T&C 40.6./36.4/37.6
 
Cargo Capacity behind 3rd row
Ody 38.4
T&C 32.3CuFt
 
MPG
Ody 19/26
T&C 17/24
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Re: Can power slide door motors be temporarily disengaged [tonyv1] by masterpaul1
Sep 12, 2007 (5:37 pm)

Replying to: tonyv1 (Sep 12, 2007 6:35 am)

Again, if they used the same type motors and set up as the previous models, you should be able to manually use the power sliding doors and rear hatch with little to no resistance, if the motor dies. Check it out for yourself and ask questions about these features to the sales person. I understand your concern though. Before, we bought our 01 DGC EX with the passenger power sliding door and power rear hatch. I found myself asking these same questions. When I found out that we could still use the power doors manually, even if the motor goes, that was a plus for me.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [bobw3] by hansienna
Sep 12, 2007 (7:08 pm)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 12, 2007 4:38 pm)

Are the measurements for the 2008 Ody and 2008 T&C or for 2007 of each?
 
WHERE are the other measurements like Shoulder Room, Hip Room, Head Room, Cargo capacity behind 2nd row and total cargo capacity behind 1st row with ALL seats down or out?
 
WHY not also include the Sienna data if it is bigger inside?
 
I feel that the Odyssey has THE most comfortable seats for ALL people inside it...BUT the Odyssey cargo room behind 3rd row is compromised by having the air intake for the rear heater/air conditioner fan at floor level while T&C/GC is part way up the rear side and the Sienna with THE LARGEST cargo area behind 3rd row also has the air intake level almost at the top of the rear side.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [marine2] by hause7
Sep 12, 2007 (7:25 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Sep 12, 2007 2:29 pm)

Chrysler has been putting out false info on there new Town&country. It is not the first minivan with a subwoofer, the Odyssey has an 8 inch sub as does the Nissan Quest, and the Sienna offers the biggest at 10 inch sub with the JBL system. It is not the first to offer power 3rd row, the 06-08 SIenna has it on limited models. The Sienna has AC outlets with the DVD player, and the SIenna offered HID headlights first and it offers Adaptive cruise control. The old Toyota Previa had the 2nd row seats that swiveled, so i don't see how thats new.
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Re: Just to mention a few more I left out before. [hause7] by marine2
Sep 12, 2007 (10:03 pm)

Replying to: hause7 (Sep 12, 2007 7:25 pm)

Chrysler has been putting out false info on there new Town&country. It is not the first minivan with a subwoofer, the Odyssey has an 8 inch sub as does the Nissan Quest, and the Sienna offers the biggest at 10 inch sub with the JBL system. It is not the first to offer power 3rd row, the 06-08 SIenna has it on limited models. The Sienna has AC outlets with the DVD player, and the SIenna offered HID headlights first and it offers Adaptive cruise control. The old Toyota Previa had the 2nd row seats that swiveled, so i don't see how thats new.
 
Not sure if Chrysler put it out or not, but the Oct. issue of Motor Trend says,(including a minivan first subwoofer)in parenthesis. The swivel seats might not be new, but it looks like the Chrysler vans are the only one having them now. I don't think any of the minivans offered a table to go with them, even before.
 
The thing is, all the standard and options you can get with this van that aren't offered with the other minivans. Even if you take away the subwoofer, the list is pretty long. Depending on what a family wants, there is a model for most everyone. Although, I would never buy the base model. That looks really cheap.

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