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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Hyundai Entourage, Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Sedona, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Van


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Chrysler/Dodge Sienna Odyssey by autowrite
Sep 07, 2007 (12:47 pm)
Oh! The Sienna's handbook suggests you fill up with premium gas (an option, regular is fine; Odyssey states that you should use regular. Maybe someone could tell everyone what the Chrysler/Dodge use {I don't know}.
I'll say again, in Canada (where I live) Honda does not have run-flat tires and Dodge/Chrysler does not offer lifetime warranties.
 
2002 Odyssey EX
1992 Ford Taurus 100
1982 Ford E150 Customized Travel Van
1979 Mercury Zephyr
1972 Datsun 510
1967 Plymouth Valiant
1965 Morris 1100
1963 Austin Mini
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Re: Chrysler/Dodge Sienna Odyssey [autowrite] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (12:54 pm)

Replying to: autowrite (Sep 07, 2007 12:47 pm)

Oh! The Sienna's handbook suggests you fill up with premium gas (an option, regular is fine; Odyssey states that you should use regular. Maybe someone could tell everyone what the Chrysler/Dodge use {I don't know}.
I'll say again, in Canada (where I live) Honda does not have run-flat tires and Dodge/Chrysler does not offer lifetime warranties.

 
THe Dodge/Chrysler both use regular gas. You should be happy Canada does not use run flat tires on the Honda. I have heard many complaints on them. Sorry Chrysler doesn't offer a lifetime warrany in Canada. That's one heck of a deal if you keep the van for four years or more.
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Re: hansienna... is in minority...and very vocal [ateixeira] by hansienna
Sep 07, 2007 (12:56 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 07, 2007 10:01 am)

I am vocal because I was STUPID enough to believe CR and other "experts" when they wrote that the Sienna (and Odyssey) are superior to the Chrysler minivans and I now drive a minivan that lacks features that were on the "inferior" Chrysler T&C.
 
I have MANY friends who are repeat Chrysler minivan owners and I know only one who would not buy another Caravan...But he did purchased and now drives a Chrysler PT Cruiser that replaced the Caravan.
 
BTW, since I am stuck with the Sienna, I am concentrating on the nice features like the most cargo area behind 3rd row seats of any minivan, the selector P-R-N-D-4-3-2-L, and the excellent "stand-alone" Oil/Oil Filter and if desired, Tire rotation facility of the selling Toyota dealership.
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Re: hansienna... is in minority...and very vocal [hansienna] by dennisctc
Sep 07, 2007 (1:10 pm)

Replying to: hansienna (Sep 07, 2007 12:56 pm)

I'll tell you this, my father owns a 2002 Sienna and loves it and especially the dealership (in Selingsgrove PA). They treat him like royalty everytime he stops there for basic service. They wash and vacuum his van for him, fix little things without delay. He raves about them.
 
Not that I can complain about my Dodge dealer...it's a new facility, rated no. 1 in USA by Chrysler. They have a trendy little coffee bar, sandwich cafe, online access with secured PCs, HDTV etc....Ohh the service is great too
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Re: hansienna... is in minority...and very vocal [hansienna] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (1:21 pm)

Replying to: hansienna (Sep 07, 2007 12:56 pm)

I am vocal because I was STUPID enough to believe CR and other "experts" when they wrote that the Sienna (and Odyssey) are superior to the Chrysler minivans and I now drive a minivan that lacks features that were on the "inferior" Chrysler T&C.
 
Well Hansienna, the Toyota minivans did have a lot of features on them and no one can say they didn't look and ride nice. Plus they had that Toyota reputation for quality. Although from what I have seen lately, Toyota's quality has gone down considerably. But you probably got a great van at the time.
 
I love my 2005 Dodge GC and all the features it has on it. But let's be serious, it looks very nice on the outside, but is bland in the inside. It only make up for it with stow-n-go seating which I use a heck of a lot. Looking at the inside of that 2008 though, makes my mouth water.
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Re: hansienna... is in minority...and very vocal [dennisctc] by marine2
Sep 07, 2007 (1:37 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 07, 2007 1:10 pm)

I'll tell you this, my father owns a 2002 Sienna and loves it and especially the dealership (in Selingsgrove PA). They treat him like royalty everytime he stops there for basic service. They wash and vacuum his van for him, fix little things without delay. He raves about them.
  
Not that I can complain about my Dodge dealer...it's a new facility, rated no. 1 in USA by Chrysler. They have a trendy little coffee bar, sandwich cafe, online access with secured PCs, HDTV etc....Ohh the service is great too

 
Well the Honda dealership we take our 2004 Civic to is very nice. They also wash your car when in for service and have free coffee, rolls, apples and etc.
 
My Dodge dealer only gives out free coffee and there are machines to buy snacks. They'll wash your vehicle if asked, but don't do it as part of the service as our Honda dealer does.
 
But I'm always getting discount coupons for service on my Dodge. They give you discount coupons for things like oil change for usually either $16.95 or $19.95. The Honda dealer is usually always around $27.95. In over two and a half years, I have never paid over $20.00, minus tax for an oil change at the dealership. I have two other coupons for $89.95 for brake replacement, metalic extra and tune up for $89.95. Regular maintence cost has been a lot less on the Dodge than the Civic. Both have been problem free though. Last year I got an oil change coupon for $16.95 and free wiper blades that they put on. I liked that one a lot.
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Re: quality [ateixeira] by bobw3
Sep 08, 2007 (5:29 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 07, 2007 9:57 am)

To be very, very clear...
  
Ice Cream Toppings are OPTIONS, folks.
  
Things you get in the standard, base van are not ice cream toppings.

 
That's not the way I look at it. The "toppings" can be either stand or option. The difference is that the "ice-cream" is the core of the vehicle (ride, handling, braking, quality, reliabilitiy, interior space, etc) that are common to every "sunday/minivan" while the "toppings" are the added unique items that some want and others do not (stowNgo, run flat tires, auto-folding rows, etc).
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Re: quality [bobw3] by marine2
Sep 08, 2007 (6:35 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 08, 2007 5:29 am)

Let's also be clear. Even if it's standard, your paying for it because they just raise the price of the car when they put it on there. What's the difference if it's extra and the dealer comes down a thousand dollars from the price he was asking? You still got it as if were standard.
 
The important thing is, can you get what you want on your van at a reasonable price or don't they even offer it? Many of the things the Dodge/Chrysler offers now, Honda and Toyota don't even offer, no matter how much your willing to pay. If both the Honda and Dodge top out at $40,000.00 and the Dodge has 3,4,or 5 things the Honda doesn't have, does it make much difference many things on the Dodge were extra and standard on the Honda? It's only a shuffle game they play.
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Re: quality [marine2] by dennisctc
Sep 08, 2007 (6:44 am)

Replying to: marine2 (Sep 08, 2007 6:35 am)

Let's also be clear. Even if it's standard, your paying for it because they just raise the price of the car when they put it on there.
 
But DCX has lowered prices on the new vans They do it by beating the crap out of suppliers, demanding 10% "givebacks" per year until they go bankrupt or the part is sourced from China. My company stopped playing this game with the Big 3, after copper prices increased 4 times in past year, along with plastics (oil) increases, we were giving the farm away.
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Re: quality [dennisctc] by marine2
Sep 08, 2007 (6:50 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 08, 2007 6:44 am)

Let's also be clear. Even if it's standard, your paying for it because they just raise the price of the car when they put it on there.
  
But DCX has lowered prices on the new vans They do it by beating the crap out of suppliers, demanding 10% "givebacks" per year until they go bankrupt or the part is sourced from China. My company stopped playing this game with the Big 3, after copper prices increased 4 times in past year, along with plastics (oil) increases, we were giving the farm away.
 
Japanese are famous for doing the same thing. As a matter of fact, they started it. The American manufactures were forced to follow or go under.
 
I have a video I taped many years ago somewhere around here, from a show like 20/20, where American part makers were complaining the Japanese were squeezing them dry asking for cheaper and cheaper parts. Many went out of business and when they did, the Japanese built their own plants and hired cheaper workers, or changed suppliers. They were doing the same thing to their suppliers in Japan.

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