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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 04, 2007 8:50 pm) You're focusing on the toppings. More of them, specifically. Honda and Toyota sell better ice cream. Dodge offers jimmies, syrup, whipped cream, jelly beans, gummy bears, granola, and all sort of chopped up candy bars on top of their vanilla ice cream. That's fine if you like toppings. But then they still use pushrod engines and hard plastics straight from the low-buck Caliber on the dash. They get the options right but miss on some of the basics. In the ice cream analogy, they use generic ice cream underneath all those toppings. Honda and Toyota use Breyer's vanilla. The lesson to be learned here? I'm hungry for lunch!  Any how, $39,305 and it's still a pushrod engine.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2007 8:25 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2007 8:25 am)
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2007 8:25 am) |
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Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 05, 2007 9:48 am) It's all about cost, because Chrysler has multivalve engines. The Corvette is a completely different animal. It's a shame the Edmunds comparo didn't measure mileage, I wonder why? Any how, my Sienna makes more power and gets better mileage. I'm not sure I'd be willing to give up either, much less both. I'll have a large sundae please. Make sure the ice cream is the best stuff you have: Breyer's Vanilla Bean. 
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2007 8:25 am) So they use hard looking plastic on their dash and doors. Last I looked, Honda's and Toyota's were plastic too. They only have a more rounded, softer look to them. It doesn't mean they'll last any longer and now you are talking about their toppings. It's all not just topping either. They have a six speed tranny, only van with self adjusting shocks, power saver, it's quieter, two kinds of rides, all row standard air bags, electronic stability control, along with traction control.(Not sure Honda even offers both) coil springs and a larger front stabilizer bar for improved control over the older models. There are plenty of improvements in this van over the older ones and they are not just toppings.
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 05, 2007 10:22 am) |
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| Chrysler has made over 30 improvements over just last year's model. I also think Honda's quality has been over blown lately. They have had plenty of problems with trannys, sliding doors, squeeks and rattles. Air conditioning, windshields, etc. So far my 2005 has been problem free. Only recall was a possible pinched hose which I had checked with an oil change. | |
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 05, 2007 10:38 am) Plus I think some of the features on the T&C are gimmicky to me. Most minivan owners have carseats attached to the seats in the 2nd row, so they're never going to use the stow-n-go feature on the road like they do in the TV commercials. And with the turning seats...I really don't think that kids (let alone adults) are going to be sitting facing each other knocking knees while driving down the highway. Maybe these things look good on TV commercials, but in reality, the minivan crowd doesn't look like the folks on TV. They're really interested in hauling a few kids around in car seats and booster seats and with a bunch of stuff behind the 3rd row on family vacations. Or with the autofolding 3rd row...give me a break. It's faster just to flip down the spit 3rd row of a Sienna or Odyssey then to wait for the autofold feature to work. But then I feel the same way with the auto-sliding doors, but then they have at least some practical benefit.
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 05, 2007 10:38 am) Take that back, it was a 30,000 mile check up, not 15,000. |
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