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1261 messages, Last post on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:47 AM
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I wonder why then does the Odyssey & Sienna consistently beat the T&C in just about every car magazine, article, or quality survey out there? It's good that some folks have good long-term luck with their Chrysler product, but if that were the case with a majority of buyers, then you'd think that the T&C quality ratings would exceed those of the Odyssey & Sienna for the past decade. But it's true that if you can't find an Odyssey or Sienna in your price range with the options you want, then the T&C may be what you want to get. And please don't respond with any conspiracy theories.
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Lots to talk about here. I agree that numbers stated at a % of the MSRP are pretty much useless, unless you paid MSRP.  So steep discounts and 0% financing can help offset some (not all) of the steeper depreciation. In another thread I offered up some no-haggle pricing, new vs. used, same dealerships, and Honda and Toyota still had the edge, even factoring in the steep discounts. Still, there is the opportunity cost to figure. Depends on what you would do the money. Also, the 2008 Dodges may do better, now that they're new and improved. Note the lifetime powertrain warranty will not help resale, as it is *not* transferable. That might actually erode residuals because it encourages people to buy instead of used. Edmunds 0-60 for that Ody is unusually slow, their last one was quicker. The champ in acceleration will still be the Sienna, though, with 266hp. Edmunds has not tested one with the new 3.5l engine, so it's hard to understand why they excluded it from this test. I'll check out a Dodge when I get a chance, though I bought my van back in May so it's too late for me this time around. |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Sep 04, 2007 8:14 am) Besides having all the safety features Honda has, it has a lot they don't. Things like power saver, that turns off your lights after about 20 min. in case you left them on. Only van with self leveling shocks, two DVD's, that can play two different movies at the same time, or video on one and games on the other. It can also be fed up to the front dash monitor, when the van is stopped. Television, A 20 gig hard drive for storing music or pictures. Only van to offer a intergrated child boster seat. A 506 watt 7.1 surround system, with a minivan first, subwoofer. Only van to offer a six speed transmission. A intergrated drop down survellance mirror to see what the kids are doing in the back. Only van to offer stow-n-go or Swivel And Go seats and table. Only van to offer automatic rear seat, with one touch stowing. You can get a firmer ride with the Dodge, or a softer ride in the Chrysler. That doesn't even include all the other stuff it has. There is a model for what every family needs or wants. Plus only company to offer a life time warranty on engine and drive train. I think it more than measures up. |
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 04, 2007 8:50 pm) |
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 04, 2007 8:50 pm) I've had a hard time convincing my wife to take a look at the new T&C. I might have to go by my self and check it out, we are very close to buying.
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Replying to: davethewave1 (Sep 05, 2007 4:31 am) |
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Replying to: marine2 (Sep 04, 2007 8:50 pm) You're focusing on the toppings. More of them, specifically. Honda and Toyota sell better ice cream. Dodge offers jimmies, syrup, whipped cream, jelly beans, gummy bears, granola, and all sort of chopped up candy bars on top of their vanilla ice cream. That's fine if you like toppings. But then they still use pushrod engines and hard plastics straight from the low-buck Caliber on the dash. They get the options right but miss on some of the basics. In the ice cream analogy, they use generic ice cream underneath all those toppings. Honda and Toyota use Breyer's vanilla. The lesson to be learned here? I'm hungry for lunch! Any how, $39,305 and it's still a pushrod engine.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2007 8:25 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Sep 05, 2007 8:25 am)
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