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1261 messages,  Last post on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:47 AM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Hyundai Entourage, Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Sedona, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Van


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Re: Glare from poorly designed Sienna instrument cluster and dash [ateixeir [marine2] by ateixeira
Feb 26, 2008 (11:28 am)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 26, 2008 11:27 am)

I'll reply in that other thread. The discussion belongs there.
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Re: artgpo [KarenS] by marine2
Feb 26, 2008 (11:33 am)

Replying to: KarenS (Feb 26, 2008 11:22 am)

I believe marine2 is referring to this discussion:
  
Minivans - Domestic vs. Foreign

 
Right on Karen, thats where this should be. I would like to take all the rest that deals with American and foreign there.
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Re: artgpo [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Feb 26, 2008 (8:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 10:25 am)

For the first comment I was referring to the Door Weld issues on the Sienna.
  
You let that myth (CR not reporting that issue) slide right by

 
I never mentioned the "Door Weld" issue, and have skipped over all those postings previously. That's why it slipped by
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Re: artgpo [dennisctc] by ateixeira
Feb 26, 2008 (1:50 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Feb 26, 2008 8:41 am)

In that case you get a pass.
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Re: artgpo [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Feb 26, 2008 (1:52 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 10:35 am)

I don't think they do that.
 
Are you looking at only the pictures? Even the pics would show you they're making comparisons!! Every issue they test similar cars - WHY? because it's a comparison. At the beginning of every article, they list ALL cars in that segment and give them ratings...not a comparison?
 
I'm glad CR knows which models and options buyers are likely to buy. So if someone is looking to tow a large trailer, they'd equip both the Toyota and GM with largest engines available and make a fair comparison, not the base engine in the GM and top of the line in the Toyota and declare Toyota the winner!
 
I'm sure GM execs aren't sitting around, paying any attention to CR.
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Re: artgpo [dennisctc] by marine2
Feb 26, 2008 (3:41 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Feb 26, 2008 1:52 pm)

I'm still trying to find out what CR meant when they said the instrument panel on my Dodge GC was busy.What the heck does that mean? I thought it was pretty well laid out.
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Re: artgpo [marine2] by dennisctc
Feb 26, 2008 (4:02 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 26, 2008 3:41 pm)

I'm still trying to find out what CR meant when they said the instrument panel on my Dodge GC was busy.What the heck does that mean? I thought it was pretty well laid out.
 
What they mean is, it's not like the japanese vehicles they're used to, therefore different and different is bad.
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Re: POC Sienna and Odysseys [artgpo] by hansienna
Feb 26, 2008 (4:56 pm)

Replying to: artgpo (Feb 26, 2008 5:45 am)

Sorry to read your son owns a Sienna XLE? Will his front door welds break like they have been breaking in the 2004-2007 Siennas?
 
Will the transmission fail in your 2006 Odyssey like they have been failing in MANY Odysseys?
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Re: Brain power challenged CR reviewers [marine2] by hansienna
Feb 26, 2008 (5:11 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 26, 2008 3:41 pm)

CR has a LOVE affair with Honda and Toyota. Their mustard seed size brains can't comprehend a vehicle with BETTER controls for HVAC, stereo, windshield/rear wipers and washers than the simpleton controls made by Hondota.
 
Chrysler vehicles had a separate control for Bass, Treble, Fade, and Balance while Toyonda has the less user friendly "one knob does everything" for the stereo which forces the owner to scroll thru everything to change the balance left/right.
 
My 02 T&C LX had a separate control for front wipers/washers and 3 controls for the rear wiper/washers while Hondota have all of these on one stalk located on the right of the steering wheel.
 
My 02 T&C LX had a POWER On/Off button for HVAC with a 5 speed fan while my 06 Sienna LE has only 4 speed fan with NO power on/off button....just for a few examples.
 
However, the Sienna does have ONE feature that is better than the Odyssey or GC/T&C: The transmission selector has P-R-N-D-4-3-2-L while the others don't have a position to hold the transmission from shifting above 1st gear ( and 4th gear in the Ody). I have not driven a Chrysler minivan with the 6 speed.
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Re: artgpo [ateixeira] by hause7
Feb 26, 2008 (6:01 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 10:35 am)

Actually the Tundra 2WD rate above average while the 4WD rated well below average. They recommend the 2WD not the 4WD.

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