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1261 messages,  Last post on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:47 AM

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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Hyundai Entourage, Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Sedona, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Van


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Re: artgpo [ateixeira] by KarenS HOST
Feb 26, 2008 (11:22 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 10:27 am)

I believe marine2 is referring to this discussion:
 
Minivans - Domestic vs. Foreign
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Re: artgpo [KarenS] by ateixeira
Feb 26, 2008 (11:24 am)

Replying to: KarenS (Feb 26, 2008 11:22 am)

Subscribed, thanks.
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Re: Glare from poorly designed Sienna instrument cluster and dash [ateixeir by marine2
Feb 26, 2008 (11:27 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 11:00 am)

They don't give a breakdown of content. But I looked at it wrong, the sticker says 83% American/Canadian content. Mexico is not mentioned. The only breakdown of that is Engine and tranny, made in U.S. My old truck said N.American and I just took it for granted this was the same, but it's not.
 
But the thing I was trying to point out still applies. If they had to have all the plants in the US, they couldn't compete at all. There is just to much of an advantage to the foreign makers here, that the American makers don't have, in wages, pensions, vacations, health care, taxes, etc.
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Re: Glare from poorly designed Sienna instrument cluster and dash [ateixeir [marine2] by ateixeira
Feb 26, 2008 (11:28 am)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 26, 2008 11:27 am)

I'll reply in that other thread. The discussion belongs there.
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Re: artgpo [KarenS] by marine2
Feb 26, 2008 (11:33 am)

Replying to: KarenS (Feb 26, 2008 11:22 am)

I believe marine2 is referring to this discussion:
  
Minivans - Domestic vs. Foreign

 
Right on Karen, thats where this should be. I would like to take all the rest that deals with American and foreign there.
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Re: artgpo [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Feb 26, 2008 (8:41 am)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 10:25 am)

For the first comment I was referring to the Door Weld issues on the Sienna.
  
You let that myth (CR not reporting that issue) slide right by

 
I never mentioned the "Door Weld" issue, and have skipped over all those postings previously. That's why it slipped by
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Re: artgpo [dennisctc] by ateixeira
Feb 26, 2008 (1:50 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Feb 26, 2008 8:41 am)

In that case you get a pass.
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Re: artgpo [ateixeira] by dennisctc
Feb 26, 2008 (1:52 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 26, 2008 10:35 am)

I don't think they do that.
 
Are you looking at only the pictures? Even the pics would show you they're making comparisons!! Every issue they test similar cars - WHY? because it's a comparison. At the beginning of every article, they list ALL cars in that segment and give them ratings...not a comparison?
 
I'm glad CR knows which models and options buyers are likely to buy. So if someone is looking to tow a large trailer, they'd equip both the Toyota and GM with largest engines available and make a fair comparison, not the base engine in the GM and top of the line in the Toyota and declare Toyota the winner!
 
I'm sure GM execs aren't sitting around, paying any attention to CR.
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Re: artgpo [dennisctc] by marine2
Feb 26, 2008 (3:41 pm)

Replying to: dennisctc (Feb 26, 2008 1:52 pm)

I'm still trying to find out what CR meant when they said the instrument panel on my Dodge GC was busy.What the heck does that mean? I thought it was pretty well laid out.
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Re: artgpo [marine2] by dennisctc
Feb 26, 2008 (4:02 pm)

Replying to: marine2 (Feb 26, 2008 3:41 pm)

I'm still trying to find out what CR meant when they said the instrument panel on my Dodge GC was busy.What the heck does that mean? I thought it was pretty well laid out.
 
What they mean is, it's not like the japanese vehicles they're used to, therefore different and different is bad.

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