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Re: Read what a mom says about her new Chrysler Town & Country Limited [car by maryh3
Feb 23, 2008 (2:40 am)

Replying to: carcom2 (Feb 22, 2008 3:39 pm)

From your referenced article at:
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=71840da3-223f-4621-9593-6- - - 01b8a2bde33&k=54159
 
The Specs
 
- Engine: 4.0-L V-6 SOHC
 
- Horsepower: 251 at 6,000 r.p.m.
 
- Torque: 259 ft.-lbs. at 4,200 r.p.m.
 
- Wheelbase: 3,078 mm
 
- Overall length: 5,144 mm
 
- Curb weight: 2,096 kg
 
- Base price: $42,895
 
- Price as tested: $49,370 (incl. $625 flexible seating, $600 tow package, $1,575 entertainment package, $1,075 sunroof, $1,150 MyGIG multimedia
 
Why is this so expensive? Is that how much tarriffs add to the price in Canada? That is quite a bit more than they are in the US.
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Re: Read what a mom says about her new Chrysler Town & Country Limited [car [maryh3] by carcom2
Feb 23, 2008 (8:16 am)

Replying to: maryh3 (Feb 23, 2008 2:40 am)

Canadian dollars.
 
They say the base price in US dollars is around $26K or $25K, about $3K less than a similarly equiped T&C.
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Re: Read what a mom says about her new Chrysler Town & Country Limited [carcom2] by bobber1
Feb 23, 2008 (3:47 am)

Replying to: carcom2 (Feb 23, 2008 8:16 am)

No it's not the exchange rate. The US to Canadian dollar are trading almost equal value. As a matter of fact the Canadian should be stronger.
 
That's an expensive van.
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2008 T&C Exterior Styling by maguy
Feb 23, 2008 (10:00 am)
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I guess. The 2007 was too rounded for me, as now cars have a more squared off look. I love the exterior of the 2008 T&C. The 2007 was getting so long in tooth. That egg on wheels was everywhere. I really like the wood on the inside of my 2008. Despite the hard plastics (which the 2007 had too) the style of the 2008 dash is much more modern than the VERY dated 2007. I looked at both, and the 2008 is a much better vehicle style wise.
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Re: Publications that test/rate vehicles [hansienna] by thegraduate
Feb 23, 2008 (10:09 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Feb 22, 2008 7:22 pm)

Neither CR or Edmunds has identified the excessive glare caused by the poorly designed instrument cluster and dash center stack of the current Sienna LE, XLE, and Limited.
      
 
I've never seen any other owner complain about that either. Perhaps it doesn't bother Edmunds or CR, since it doesn't seem to bother most owners.
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Re: Read what a mom says about her new Chrysler Town & Country Limited [bobber1] by carcom2
Feb 23, 2008 (12:42 pm)

Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 23, 2008 3:47 am)

Not sure who you are talking to and/or disagreeing with the $25K, but this is right from my post 1165 - VW Press Release :
 
Volkswagen delivers a competitively priced entry into this high volume segment with prices starting below $25,000. The Routan will be built in an already existing facility in Windsor, Ontario.
 
So as I said before, (I've read it in many articles) this $25K is about $3K LESS than a similarly equiped T&C.
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Glare from poorly designed Sienna instrument cluster and dash by hansienna
Feb 23, 2008 (3:57 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 23, 2008 10:09 am)

Most Sienna owners have NOT owned a Chrysler T&C before buying a more expensive, less satisfactory Toyota Sienna. (FWIW, I did NOT like the white faced instrument cluster of the T&C but it did not have the glare that is caused by the shiny circles around each instrument in the Sienna instrument cluster.)
 
Neither Edmunds or CR will admit that Chrysler minivans have many features superior to those of the Sienna or Odyssey. CR still recommends the Odyssey even though many Odysseys are having transmission failures. Have you read in CR that 2004-2007 Siennas have defective welds in the front doors? (Read about these Odyssey and Sienna defects here in the CarSpace Forums).
 
I have owned both a T&C and Sienna and write from experience with one of each.
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Re: Read what a mom says about her new Chrysler Town & Country Limited [bob by maryh3
Feb 23, 2008 (4:02 pm)

Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 23, 2008 3:47 am)

No it's not the exchange rate. The US to Canadian dollar are trading almost equal value. As a matter of fact the Canadian should be stronger.
  
That's an expensive van.

 
For comparison:
     
        Base Price in Canada $42895
        Base Price in US $35670
 
        Total Price in Canada $49370
        Total Price in US $42305
        Minus $1500 Incentive $40805
 
That is almost a $9000 difference for the same vehicle in US verses Canada. Why?
Destination fees? Canadian taxes? Hidden Tariffs (I thought NAFTA ended these??) or what?
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Re: Publications that test/rate vehicles [thegraduate] by maryh3
Feb 23, 2008 (4:05 pm)

Replying to: thegraduate (Feb 23, 2008 10:09 am)

I've never seen any other owner complain about that either. Perhaps it doesn't bother Edmunds or CR, since it doesn't seem to bother most owners.
 
If I posted this I'd be accused of a sample size of one.
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Re: Read what a mom says about her new Chrysler Town & Country Limited [bob by yatesjo
Feb 23, 2008 (4:06 pm)

Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 23, 2008 3:47 am)

Most things in Canada are still priced as though the exchange still heavily favored the US dollar and and still hasn't caught up with the historically anomalous exchange parity of late. Ever notice the Canadian price on the book sleeve? They still charge the higher Canadian price in Canada to the benefit of retailers just to the US side of the border.
 
Similarly, a lot of foreign built cars sold in the US have not increased in price proportional to the change exchange rates meaning their profits on vehicles are going down. The good news is that cars built in the US can be exported more profitably

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