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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Hyundai Entourage, Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Sedona, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Van


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Re: Honda Steam is NOT a minivan [autowrite] by bobw3
Sep 01, 2007 (10:23 am)

Replying to: autowrite (Aug 31, 2007 6:59 pm)

The Mazda9, Outlook, Acadia, Freestyle, Veracruz, etc...are all considered CUVs, because they're a cross between a SUV and minivan/car.
 
By definition, a minivan is a small van, with a flat floor, sliding doors...basically a box on wheels. None of the CUVs listed above meet that criteria. Just because a vehicle holds 8 doesn't make it a minivan.
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2008 T&C: how to get tan seats by tsu670
Sep 01, 2007 (3:16 pm)
There are some 2008 T&Cs arriving here and they look really nice. The problem is the ones with leather all have gray interiors. Looking at the Chrysler website (build your own), it appears you can get tan trim by ordering the Touring with 24k option pkg, but that would be in their so-called "YES Essentials" material, which I think is their fancy word for cloth seats. If you change the YES Essentials to leather, there is no additional charge, but the color automatically reverts to gray. Could it be that the only way to get tan leather seats in the new T&C is by moving up to the Limited model?
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Re: 2008 T&C: how to get tan seats [tsu670] by toronado455
Sep 02, 2007 (12:48 am)

Replying to: tsu670 (Sep 01, 2007 3:16 pm)

Could it be that the only way to get tan leather seats in the new T&C is by moving up to the Limited model?
 
It could be. Or it could just be that the web site isn't functioning properly.
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Re: 2008 T&C: how to get tan seats [tsu670] by marine2
Sep 02, 2007 (8:10 pm)

Replying to: tsu670 (Sep 01, 2007 3:16 pm)

I don't know, but I saw a Dodge SXT with Swivel n Go seats with tan leather seats the other day at a dealership. It sure was nice.
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Not Quite as Good by artgpo
Sep 03, 2007 (5:21 am)
Before buying a 2008 Chrysler built minivan you might consider reading the Edmunds Insider head to head review of the 2008 Grand Caravan and the Odyssey. As the title of my post suggests, nice try Chrysler, close but no cigar. Factor in the miserable depreciation (caused by tens of thousands dumped from rental/taxi fleets)and it becomes clear that the right choice would be an Odyssey.
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Re: Not Quite as Good [artgpo] by tsu670
Sep 03, 2007 (5:43 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Sep 03, 2007 5:21 am)

Yes, actually the Rice cake is at the top of our list, but we wanted to see what the new Mopars were like first. Somewhat under whelmed.
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Re: Not Quite as Good [artgpo] by dennisctc
Sep 03, 2007 (6:16 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Sep 03, 2007 5:21 am)

Actually all the Big 3 are jumping out of the rental/taxi fleets. Nowadays, you can rent Toyotas and Hyundais instead. You'd think someone would come out with a company just to make generic cars/minivan and focus solely on that niche? DCX also now has the best warranty in the industry.
 
The "miserable depreciation" is quite dishonest because of the only way it can be factored i.e.. using MSRP, not actual transaction price. I bet if you could factor in people of paid dealer markup to get a certain model vs. someone who got a discount, it wouldn't be nearly "miserable".
 
So if you factor in no rentals, the best warranty, features and honest depreciation, the right choice could be a Chrysler vehicle.
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Re: Not Quite as Good [dennisctc] by artgpo
Sep 03, 2007 (7:31 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 03, 2007 6:16 am)

I have not posted on these boards in about 18 months or more and I know why. The mantra of the same people touting what cannot, in fact, be touted continues.
 
I'm outta here, again.
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Re: Not Quite as Good [dennisctc] by artgpo
Sep 03, 2007 (7:36 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Sep 03, 2007 6:16 am)

I specifically remember GM saying they would not be putting the "new" Malibu into rental fleets to help maintain resale when the car was introduced about four years ago. Guess what? GM has made almost the exact same statement concerning its impending "newer" Malibu. GM says it would "limit" the number in rental fleets. I guess this will be the plan until sales do not meet quotas?
 
BTW: According to Edmunds the Kia Sedona has the worst depreciation at 40%. Yes is for the newest body style. Chrysler is close behind.
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Re: Not Quite as Good [artgpo] by dennisctc
Sep 03, 2007 (8:20 am)

Replying to: artgpo (Sep 03, 2007 7:36 am)

I thought you were "outta here"?
 
Guess it's easier to just spout off a figure but not respond to how depreciation is actually calculated. Edmunds says blah blah blah, but how did they arrive at blah blah blah doesn't matter?
 
Lets see, I spent $20,000 for my 2005, it has 21,000 miles, never a problem, in great shape and according to NADA worth about $16,000 - $17,500, it's retained about 80% of it's original selling price using the $16k figure? Not too miserable by my calculations.

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