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1261 messages, Last post on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:47 AM
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 06, 2008 4:03 pm) I say skip both the VW and Chrysler and buy a Toyota or Honda. You'll get a more reliable vehicle with the better "feeling" switches and finish you seem to like 
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Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 06, 2008 7:20 pm) I'm not saying everyone thinks that way, but to me the Chrysler minivans have more features than the Odyssey/Sienna, such as underfoot storage coolers, swivel seats w/table, individual DVD screens, lifetime powertrain warranty, and so for families with kids who take a lot of road trips, these things may be more valuable than a statistic that indicates that the Odyssey or Sienna is more reliable. Could be the same when the VW comes out, especially for folks who just want to drive something different than their neighbor's Odyssey/Sienna |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 07, 2008 7:26 am) Note that the Sienna is not among the models with recent problems. In the context of this thread, i.e. the Sienna being their only minivan, CR has rated Toyota vans as reliable all along, consistently, and still do. The fact that 6 speed transmission and Tundra V8 are problematic have had no effect whatsoever on the Sienna, of course, since it never got those. Actually, that CR rated some other Toyotas poorly sort of contradicts the claims of bias that some people make. Any how, just wanted to point that out. Sienna is still CR's most reliable van, has been for years now. |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 07, 2008 7:26 am) Now to address the 2nd half of your sentence. Indeed, reliability is one factor, but the Sienna still excels in many other ways: * most HP, quickest acceleration * most fuel efficient (despite being quickest, wow!) * only AWD option * only true 8 seater * most cases of beer in the cargo area in any position! That last one won me over.  I didn't choose the Sienna because of its reliability scores. But I'll take that, too.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Feb 07, 2008 10:33 am)
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Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 06, 2008 7:20 pm)  The Sienna LE interior is much more attractive than the T&C LX or T&C Touring. 
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Replying to: hansienna (Feb 07, 2008 3:23 pm) |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 07, 2008 2:59 pm) Well, I bought my van in May, before the new models were even available for sale. I have since checked out the Town & Country at the DC Auto Show, and some of the interior materials disappointed me. The "leather" seats look like vinyl, and the material is shiny, plus the plastics aren't up to par, IMHO. The swiveling seats are cool, but they're still too low to the ground and when they face the rear there isn't enough leg room for either row. They should move the 3rd row back - a lot. Like a whole foot back. I like the idea of the 2 DVD screens, but we got a 12" aftermarket screen so those screens now seem tiny to us. The MyGig is cool, but the Sienna is WMA/MP3 capable, so 6 CDs fit more songs than I have in my song library. No gain for me. That plus we already have a Garmin GPS, which works fine. Just upgraded to a 200 widescreen for $199. Can't beat that for value. I don't think for the $25 grand that I spent I'd get many of the features you have in mind. Even adding in the huge DVD screen and my GPS we spent just a hair over $26k. |
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Toyota does make a great van but they are not without problems. Consider the huge issue with door welds failing just after warranty. Honda also has very troubling transmissions problems. Just look at the Honda thread and see for yourself. I've come to the conclusion that CR is more biased then I previously thought. I own a Kia Sedona, an 06 and CR recently dropped their "recommended" rating for the Sedona based off of what I do not know. The problems with Kia's new design year have been very minor but look at some of Honda's major tranny design flaws and Toyota's weld's failing CR does not mention this at all and still recommended them like no tomorrow. CR is biased.
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Replying to: lavrishevo (Feb 15, 2008 7:14 pm) No, REALLY???? Next you'll be saying the way they calculate resale value is flawed i.e...using MSRP not actual sale price, and not factoring in larger rebates on vehicles! Or maybe they lay out their magazine in a biased fashion i.e...mostly pics of imports on the cover and lead of articles!!! I've never heard of such slander!! 
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