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1261 messages, Last post on Feb 27, 2008 at 7:47 AM
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Replying to: artgpo (Feb 06, 2008 2:31 pm) Ohhh there's plenty of "legitimate complaints" to go around here....horror tales from Toyota, Honda and Chrysler owners. If one went by the comments on this board "Which One" would be thinking of just taking mass transit. Seeing that "Which One" hadn't driven other makes and just had a misperception, they owe it to themselves to SHOP, COMPARE and make an INFORMED decision. That would be my way not the highway. I see plenty of people on here badmouthing a make because of a bad experience and it will forever cloud their thinking, they'll take it to their graves, whining and moaning... I've owned awesome domestics and crappy imports, but I looked at all minivans a few years back before deciding on my totally trouble free Grand Caravan.
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Replying to: dennisctc (Feb 06, 2008 2:55 am)  All Chrysler minivan owners but one ( including Dodge and Plymouth minivans) are completely satisfied. That person got an ABUSED, used Plymouth Voyager. I loved my 2002 Chrysler T&C LX that our daughter is now driving. |
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Replying to: dennisctc (Feb 06, 2008 2:49 pm)
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Replying to: artgpo (Feb 06, 2008 3:34 pm) Jeez, how did I shoot you down? Are you taking my "whining and moaning" personally - if you are, that's your problem, not mine. I don't let my experiences color every future buying decision from here to enternity.....that's the difference between my opinion and someone with a bad experience who harps on it constantly. If for some reason you feel i'm referring specifically to you - get over it!!! |
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The quality I'm talking about where VW excels is internal controls, switches, materials, etc, and this is where Chrysler and their hard plastics fail. Again, some people would rather drive a vehicle that feels of greater interior quality (and better driving dynamics), then drive a vehicle with an interior that looks and feels cheap and drives like a school bus (even if it is quiet). So maybe they have to take it in to the shop twice a year for repairs as compared to a Chrysler that you only have to take in once a year for repairs, but they're more satisfied with their vehicle the other 363 days of the year.
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 06, 2008 4:03 pm) I say skip both the VW and Chrysler and buy a Toyota or Honda. You'll get a more reliable vehicle with the better "feeling" switches and finish you seem to like 
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Replying to: bobber1 (Feb 06, 2008 7:20 pm) I'm not saying everyone thinks that way, but to me the Chrysler minivans have more features than the Odyssey/Sienna, such as underfoot storage coolers, swivel seats w/table, individual DVD screens, lifetime powertrain warranty, and so for families with kids who take a lot of road trips, these things may be more valuable than a statistic that indicates that the Odyssey or Sienna is more reliable. Could be the same when the VW comes out, especially for folks who just want to drive something different than their neighbor's Odyssey/Sienna |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 07, 2008 7:26 am) Note that the Sienna is not among the models with recent problems. In the context of this thread, i.e. the Sienna being their only minivan, CR has rated Toyota vans as reliable all along, consistently, and still do. The fact that 6 speed transmission and Tundra V8 are problematic have had no effect whatsoever on the Sienna, of course, since it never got those. Actually, that CR rated some other Toyotas poorly sort of contradicts the claims of bias that some people make. Any how, just wanted to point that out. Sienna is still CR's most reliable van, has been for years now. |
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Replying to: bobw3 (Feb 07, 2008 7:26 am) Now to address the 2nd half of your sentence. Indeed, reliability is one factor, but the Sienna still excels in many other ways: * most HP, quickest acceleration * most fuel efficient (despite being quickest, wow!) * only AWD option * only true 8 seater * most cases of beer in the cargo area in any position! That last one won me over.  I didn't choose the Sienna because of its reliability scores. But I'll take that, too.
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