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Replying to: autowrite (Jul 30, 2007 7:20 am) Looks like the answer is "YES".  http://news.windingroad.com/countriesmarkets/japan/japan-report-honda-stream-hea- ded-to-us-in-2009/
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Replying to: toronado455 (Aug 30, 2007 1:03 pm) However, without sliding side doors, the vehicle is NOT a minivan but is a station wagon, tall station wagon, or to distort the situation even more, with AWD it is an SUV (thanks to Subaru's definition). 
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Replying to: toronado455 (Aug 30, 2007 1:03 pm) The Mazda5 and Rondo are the others. Sliding doors or no, these are all similarly sized and priced, and will surely be cross-shopped. Yet another entry will be the Dodge Journey: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=122333 |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 31, 2007 6:48 am) |
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 31, 2007 6:48 am) One word for the Dodge Journey: UGLY
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Replying to: hansienna (Aug 31, 2007 8:24 am) It's based on the Stratus so it should be mid-sized, not full size. Vans are about 200-205" long while the Stratus is 191" long. Plus, Stratus prices are a lot lower than Grand Caravan prices. The non-Grands will be gone, plus no more AWD.
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Replying to: hansienna (Aug 31, 2007 6:11 am) However, without sliding side doors, the vehicle is NOT a minivan but is a station wagon, tall station wagon, or to distort the situation even more, with AWD it is an SUV (thanks to Subaru's definition). Does that also mean that the first Honda Odyssey wasn't a minivan because it had no sliding doors? What about the Mitsubishi Expo, and Colt Vista? Would you say that the Expo LRV, which was shorter than the Expo but had sliding doors was a minivan? Clearly not all vehicles fit neatly into categories. And the definition of "minivan" has changed over time as the minivans have gotten larger and larger. I like to use the term "microvan" or compact MPV for these smaller, tall, long wagon type of vehicles - with or without sliding doors and with or without 3rd seat options. I'd say they can be safely distinguished from SUVs (even small SUVs like the Forester) due to lower ground clearance and hence greater interior space utilization.
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Replying to: ateixeira (Aug 31, 2007 9:33 am) I do like the idea of getting rid of the non-Grand Caravans and coming in with a microvan in it's place. But from looking at the Journey, they clearly don't want to build anything that could possibly have "van" associated with it. "Crossover" is the where they feel the market is. |
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Replying to: toronado455 (Aug 31, 2007 12:55 pm) The Japanese Odyssey has 4 doors that do not slide. The NA Odyssey in 1999-2004 was sold in Japan as 'La Great' and looks the same as the NA one did did. If you use you logic the Mazda9, I believe is considered by the industry as a mini-van although I would say it proably fits as a mico-mini-van, about the same size as the Stream.
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