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What is this discussion about? Toyota Sienna, Honda Odyssey, Chrysler Town and Country, Dodge Caravan, Hyundai Entourage, Mazda MAZDA5, Kia Sedona, Car Comparisons, Car Buying, Van


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Re: Toyota the best? [hansienna] by dennisctc
Jan 01, 2008 (5:45 am)

Replying to: hansienna (Dec 31, 2007 3:45 pm)

Won't it be convenient for Toyota to claim "abuse" if the front door check mounting panel spot welds become detached?
 
We all know on here how abusive you are to door hinges Hans!!
 
"Abuse" is so subjective....what if you're a muscular body builder?? or you have 10 kids opening and closing the doors constantly.....Scrary for owners.
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Re: Toyota the best? [dennisctc] by ateixeira
Jan 01, 2008 (8:06 am)

Replying to: dennisctc (Jan 01, 2008 5:45 am)

Yeah, put down that sledge hammer...and nobody gets hurt.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [bobw3] by aaron_t
Jan 04, 2008 (11:49 am)

Replying to: bobw3 (Dec 05, 2007 9:24 am)

Just catchining up on this thread...
 
I now have a 1-month old and a 2.5yr old. I use a Graco infant carrier with detachable base in our 2007 T&C with Stow N Go (same as 2008 model seats). With the angle of the seat bottom, I put two 1" 3-ring bilders under the back of the base to make it more level for my son's head. I don't remember doing this for my older daughter in our 2005 with same seats, although she only lasted about 2 months in the carrier before we used a Britax Marathon convertible seat in the minivan. I am determined to keep this guy in a carrier at least through winter and hopefully until my daughter can use a booster/next step. I don't really want to buy another $250 car seat for him for only 6 months until the odler child moves up.
 
Anyway, the adjustment on the Graco seat base wasn't enough for SnG so my solution is soem binders fileld with paper.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [aaron_t] by bobw3
Jan 04, 2008 (3:17 pm)

Replying to: aaron_t (Jan 04, 2008 11:49 am)

Using binders under a car seat?? Doesn't sound too safe to me. I'd never buy a vehicle with this strange seat angle.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [aaron_t] by lgret13
Jan 04, 2008 (6:45 pm)

Replying to: aaron_t (Jan 04, 2008 11:49 am)

I have an 08 with the stow and go and have the graco snug ride car seat and base and have no issues with the angle of the seat. The indicator on the side of the car seat shows no orange at all and is perfectly level. Are you sure you installed it correctly and that the front foot of base is set to the highest level. I think if i had the seat in the third row there may be angle problem.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [aaron_t] by mfletou1
Jan 04, 2008 (7:17 pm)

Replying to: aaron_t (Jan 04, 2008 11:49 am)

Not to butt in, but if I were you, I'd get that set up down to your nearest fire station (call first) and ask them to evaluate it for safety. I've got a 11 month old and we use a Britax Roundabout with him (Prior to that a Chicco Safeseat) so I sympathize. Car seat fit was a major factor in our decision to purchase an Odyssey though I confess we were really only considering the Sienna as an alternative.
 
In any event, in an accident, those binders are likely to come lose and cause the carseat to be less secure. That would be a big problem.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [mfletou1] by ateixeira
Jan 07, 2008 (7:41 am)

Replying to: mfletou1 (Jan 04, 2008 7:17 pm)

Good suggestion. Some dealerships do it as well. Fitzgerald in Rockville will fit a car seat to any car, doesn't even matter the brand.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [lgret13] by aaron_t
Jan 07, 2008 (9:44 am)

Replying to: lgret13 (Jan 04, 2008 6:45 pm)

I appreciate your concerns, but the seat was instaleld correctly with the level indicator within the grey band before I used the binders. It was inspected by a nurse when we left the hospital who said it was a little too much angle still. We tried it for a few trips, but my son's head kept falling down while sleeping. When he gets a little older, I'll remove the bilnders.
 
For anyone who is familiar with the Graco bases, there are only rear anchors to attach using LATCH or vehicle belt. When you tichen them down, the seat cushin is compresed further increasing the angle. Also, if someone hits my vehicle in the rear, the front of the car seat could lift up. Given the contour of the seat and how much I tighten the strap, I'm not worried about the binders. There are other loose objects in the vehicle like a snow brush, daiper bags, portable elctronics, etc that I'd worry about in an accident before my binders sandwiched between the seat and car seat base.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [aaron_t] by lgret13
Jan 07, 2008 (6:55 pm)

Replying to: aaron_t (Jan 07, 2008 9:44 am)

I would still remove the binders from the seat. If the seat was level without them you are creating a more dangerous condition with them. If you are concerned about head support there are many supports for sale to keep a baby's head from falling down while they are sleeping. If you look at the babiesrus website under car seat accessories there are several head supports which are much safer that go around the babies head and on the side of neck plus they are kinda like a pillow when they do sleep.
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Re: carseats and seat angle? [lgret13] by aaron_t
Jan 08, 2008 (8:29 am)

Replying to: lgret13 (Jan 07, 2008 6:55 pm)

The seat is still level, or within the band of levelness. It is just torwards more flat limit vs. the more tilted limit without the binders. It's a pretty wide tolerance. All the head/neck supports help falling to the side (we have three different ones), but not forward.

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