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Article Comments - 2008 F-450 Super Duty Full Test

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Article comments for Full Test: 2008 Ford F-450 Super Duty - For those hauling heavy loads — whether it's an extended horse trailer, a part-time home for recreation in remote areas or even a pair of hobby cars — your steed has arrived. (more)


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#45 of 146
Knock it off! by kcram HOST
Nov 06, 2007 (6:47 pm)
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The personal shots are not allowed in the forums. Your one warning.
 
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Where you should really blame Ford. by mschmal
Nov 07, 2007 (4:49 am)
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Ford should never have made such a heavy duty pickup track that rides so well, is so quiet and so comfortable that people who test drive it forget that this is NOT A GROCERY GETTER but something tough enough to TOW SEVERAL TONS MORE than the nearest competition.
 
As a sales person, my messages is Do Not Buy an F-450 if you don't need that tough a truck.
 
Thats all. People are complaining that it gets lower fuel econ than much lighter less robust trucks from GM/Dodge.
 
But thats not an apples to apples comparison. Next time you see your landscaper drive by in his F-450 Dump, ask him what kind of milage he gets. Ask the tow truck driver what kind of MPG he gets. Ask the Ambulance driver what kind of MPG he gets.
 
Did I mention that this truck WEIGHTS 8600 pounds! Thats about the same as 2.5 Fusions. hmmm Double the weight, half the fuel economy. Is there a relationship?
 
With the heavy tow package, this truck has a 4.88LS rear. Thats something you see on COMMERCIAL TRUCKS!
 
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goldman1 by goldman1
Nov 11, 2007 (4:33 pm)
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Just to set the record straight, I'm not a doctor. I am however the owner of a metals recycling company. I have rented many large trucks and have owned 6 Ford dually crew cab F-350's. Although this is definately a heavier duty truck, no one at my dealership bothered to discuss with me the poorer mileage of this 450 vs my V-10's. I know this is heavier, is a twin turbo diesel and is used mainly commercially. However I have a power lift gate on it and often haul 8-10 55-gallon drums with scrap in them. They can weigh upwards of 5000 lbs. If this truck was going to "radically change" my mileage, the Ford salesman should have informed me. In addition, I've spoken to many new owners and some who have already gotten rid of their new F-450 due to the mileage. Many of them tow trailers with a 5th wheel attached. All of them would now prefer a Chevy or a Dodge. This is a great truck, but the mileage "sucks!"
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Let's show Ford the Truth by goldman1
Nov 11, 2007 (4:54 pm)
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Since there are 47 postings here on the issues of Ford's new F-450, I hope Edmunds will take the lead and pass these on to Ford. I've called customer relations and they say to go back to the dealer. Since we as owners don't appear to be able to talk to the right people at Ford, maybe Edmunds can use it's connections to get someone to hear. You might say that Edmunds would be doing a public service for the people they serve!
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Re: Help [relmquist] by dyno1
Nov 20, 2007 (7:34 pm)
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Replying to: relmquist (Oct 25, 2007 2:59 pm)

May I ask you what rear end ratio you have in your truck? I have only heard horror stories about this vehicle until your comments. I just ordered one and I did only because Dodge does not offer a pickup with the capabilities of the Ford. My last three Dodges including the 07 Mega Cab I traded were magnificent, in all areas, but particularly with the Cummins diesel. I fear after reading all the previous comments, that I am going to regret my decision to buy the Ford instead of a toter for my 20.000 lb fifth wheel.. Toters average about 15 mpg with the same load.
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Re: Help [dyno1] by goldman1
Nov 20, 2007 (9:34 pm)
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Replying to: dyno1 (Nov 20, 2007 7:34 pm)

Mine is fitted with 4.88 gears. I'm afraid after all of my inquiries through these forums that I probably made a mistake in not researching gearing before I purchased this truck. I'm currently inquiring through the dealer about whether I can change the gearing and possibly improve mileage. If you have a large fifth wheel, I'm afraid that 4.88's are probably what you need. I still think that overall it's a great truck, but mileage is certainly not wonderful!
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F450 mileage by losman54
Nov 21, 2007 (5:24 am)
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Does anybody out there have a 2008 F450 with a 4.1 rear and is towing 16-17K? I have a Cari-Lite fifth wheel that I brought back up north from Florida and I got 12-13 MPG and I'm in the market for a new truck next Spring and I like the look of the new F450 for everything except the MPG while towing and non towing use. I wonder what would happen if Ford made available a 3.73 rear like they do on their F350?
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Re: My new f-450 [floorz] by welchco
Nov 21, 2007 (9:23 am)
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Replying to: floorz (May 07, 2007 9:11 am)

I own a 08 f-450 lariat with 430 gears in 4x4 an the mileage at 9.5 on the trip on the dash. which is wrong it's about 8.9. my truck has 11600 on it I don't think it's going to get any better. and thats not towing anything yet. I had a 03 f-350 crew cab with 6.0 and complianed about 11-13 mpg big mistake
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Re: Help [goldman1] by dyno1
Nov 21, 2007 (6:03 pm)
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Replying to: goldman1 (Nov 20, 2007 9:34 pm)

Thanks for the feedback. I must equip mine with the 4:88 gear as my 5th wheel weight requires it.
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Re: Help [dyno1] by losman54
Nov 21, 2007 (6:09 pm)
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Replying to: dyno1 (Nov 21, 2007 6:03 pm)

how much does your 5th wheel weigh? Brand/manuf?

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