Article Comments - 2008 F-450 Super Duty Full Test

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#42 of 146 F-450 Poor Mileage by goldman1 Nov 05, 2007 (9:37 am)
I've had my 450 King Ranch dually for approx. 4 months with a little over 5k miles on it. The mileage is terrible. I get between 8-10 combined mileage unloaded. I got 6-7mpg. pulling a 5000 lb. trailer. My other truck is a dually crewcab 03 Ford with a V-10. It gets 12-13 mpg. My dealer had it for over a week and they told me everything is in "spec". Why isn't Ford addressing this issue. Edmonds doesn't even mention milage in it's revue. It's great that this is such a clean burning diesel but mileage is also important. Chevy's diesel gets 16-20 mpg. according to owners I've spoken to. If I hadn't already added a liftgate and diamond plate in the bed, I'd be asking Ford to take it back. Ford-Please help those of us who are loyal to the blue oval!
#43 of 146 Fuel Econ. This is not an issue by mschmal Nov 06, 2007 (2:45 pm)
You purchased a truck with a GVW of 14,500 lbs a curb weight of 8,600 pounds (Yes thats 4 tons), and a towing capacity (5th wheel) of 22,000 pounds to tow a 5,000 trailer. BLINK BLINK. I hope you aren't a Doctor, you would probably do brain surgery with a chain saw. The F-450 is a COMMERCIAL vehicle. IT WEIGHTS MORE EMPTY than the GVW of a an F-150. If you don't need this kind of truck but buy one anyway, you have only yourself to blame for the fuel economy. Mark
#44 of 146 This is not an issue????? by floorz Nov 06, 2007 (4:58 pm)
Listen to Mark, he's a ford salesman so you know his opinion is unbiased. He doesn't own the truck, he just belittles anyone who is upset about the outrageously poor mileage this truck gets. His favorite line is "you don't need a truck like this", I would love to see him use that one on the lot. BLINK BLINK Even if Goldman1 was a doctor, I doubt he could pull your head out of your ass! 13,000 miles on an f-450 and still 9 miles to the gallon, yeah I'm tired of your rhetoric.
#45 of 146 Knock it off! by kcram HOST Nov 06, 2007 (6:47 pm)
The personal shots are not allowed in the forums. Your one warning. kcram - Pickups Host
#46 of 146 Where you should really blame Ford. by mschmal Nov 07, 2007 (4:49 am)
Ford should never have made such a heavy duty pickup track that rides so well, is so quiet and so comfortable that people who test drive it forget that this is NOT A GROCERY GETTER but something tough enough to TOW SEVERAL TONS MORE than the nearest competition. As a sales person, my messages is Do Not Buy an F-450 if you don't need that tough a truck. Thats all. People are complaining that it gets lower fuel econ than much lighter less robust trucks from GM/Dodge. But thats not an apples to apples comparison. Next time you see your landscaper drive by in his F-450 Dump, ask him what kind of milage he gets. Ask the tow truck driver what kind of MPG he gets. Ask the Ambulance driver what kind of MPG he gets. Did I mention that this truck WEIGHTS 8600 pounds! Thats about the same as 2.5 Fusions. hmmm Double the weight, half the fuel economy. Is there a relationship? With the heavy tow package, this truck has a 4.88LS rear. Thats something you see on COMMERCIAL TRUCKS! Mark
#47 of 146 goldman1 by goldman1 Nov 11, 2007 (4:33 pm)
Just to set the record straight, I'm not a doctor. I am however the owner of a metals recycling company. I have rented many large trucks and have owned 6 Ford dually crew cab F-350's. Although this is definately a heavier duty truck, no one at my dealership bothered to discuss with me the poorer mileage of this 450 vs my V-10's. I know this is heavier, is a twin turbo diesel and is used mainly commercially. However I have a power lift gate on it and often haul 8-10 55-gallon drums with scrap in them. They can weigh upwards of 5000 lbs. If this truck was going to "radically change" my mileage, the Ford salesman should have informed me. In addition, I've spoken to many new owners and some who have already gotten rid of their new F-450 due to the mileage. Many of them tow trailers with a 5th wheel attached. All of them would now prefer a Chevy or a Dodge. This is a great truck, but the mileage "sucks!"
#48 of 146 Let's show Ford the Truth by goldman1 Nov 11, 2007 (4:54 pm)
Since there are 47 postings here on the issues of Ford's new F-450, I hope Edmunds will take the lead and pass these on to Ford. I've called customer relations and they say to go back to the dealer. Since we as owners don't appear to be able to talk to the right people at Ford, maybe Edmunds can use it's connections to get someone to hear. You might say that Edmunds would be doing a public service for the people they serve!
#49 of 146 Re: Help [relmquist] by dyno1 Nov 20, 2007 (7:34 pm)
Replying to: relmquist (Oct 25, 2007 2:59 pm) May I ask you what rear end ratio you have in your truck? I have only heard horror stories about this vehicle until your comments. I just ordered one and I did only because Dodge does not offer a pickup with the capabilities of the Ford. My last three Dodges including the 07 Mega Cab I traded were magnificent, in all areas, but particularly with the Cummins diesel. I fear after reading all the previous comments, that I am going to regret my decision to buy the Ford instead of a toter for my 20.000 lb fifth wheel.. Toters average about 15 mpg with the same load. Dyno1 Replies to this message: goldman1 (Nov 20, 2007 9:34 pm) dyno1 (Nov 21, 2007 6:03 pm) losman54 (Nov 21, 2007 6:09 pm) losman54 (Dec 27, 2007 7:58 am)
#50 of 146 Re: Help [dyno1] by goldman1 Nov 20, 2007 (9:34 pm)
Replying to: dyno1 (Nov 20, 2007 7:34 pm) Mine is fitted with 4.88 gears. I'm afraid after all of my inquiries through these forums that I probably made a mistake in not researching gearing before I purchased this truck. I'm currently inquiring through the dealer about whether I can change the gearing and possibly improve mileage. If you have a large fifth wheel, I'm afraid that 4.88's are probably what you need. I still think that overall it's a great truck, but mileage is certainly not wonderful! Replies to this message: dyno1 (Nov 21, 2007 6:03 pm) losman54 (Nov 21, 2007 6:09 pm) losman54 (Dec 27, 2007 7:58 am)
#51 of 146 F450 mileage by losman54 Nov 21, 2007 (5:24 am)
Does anybody out there have a 2008 F450 with a 4.1 rear and is towing 16-17K? I have a Cari-Lite fifth wheel that I brought back up north from Florida and I got 12-13 MPG and I'm in the market for a new truck next Spring and I like the look of the new F450 for everything except the MPG while towing and non towing use. I wonder what would happen if Ford made available a 3.73 rear like they do on their F350?