Article Comments - 2008 F-450 Super Duty Full Test

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#38 of 146 Help by bobm11 Oct 11, 2007 (12:57 pm)
Hi: My wife and I are about to buy a slide on and we are having a hard time with the right vehicle to haul it with. I have always heard Dodge with the cummings was the best. I dont want the new Ford 350/450 because all I read about is TROUBLE with the engine. I dont know that much about the Duramax. The camper we will be placing in the truck bed is about 5200lbs when everything is said and done. My question is; will a 3500 be enough truock for us? We plan to go out for about 2-3 months at a time, come home for about 2 months and go out again for 2-3 months and continue that cycle. Any help would be appreaciated. Thanks Bob M Replies to this message: losman54 (Oct 11, 2007 1:34 pm) bobm11 (Oct 11, 2007 1:39 pm) relmquist (Oct 25, 2007 2:59 pm) dyno1 (Nov 20, 2007 7:34 pm) goldman1 (Nov 20, 2007 9:34 pm) and 3 more... black450 (Mar 30, 2008 6:05 pm) captu (May 13, 2008 12:26 am)
#39 of 146 Re: Help [bobm11] by losman54 Oct 11, 2007 (1:34 pm)
Replying to: bobm11 (Oct 11, 2007 12:57 pm) Yes, the 3500/1 ton is fine. The rear axle rating on a Duramax is over 8,000 lb. and you will get excellent MPG too! Replies to this message: bobm11 (Oct 11, 2007 1:39 pm)
#40 of 146 Re: Help [losman54] by bobm11 Oct 11, 2007 (1:39 pm)
Replying to: losman54 (Oct 11, 2007 1:34 pm) I hear what you are saying about the 8000lb axel weight but what about the MGVW with a camper that is 5200 to 5300 lbs?
#41 of 146 Re: Help [bobm11] by relmquist Oct 25, 2007 (2:59 pm)
Replying to: bobm11 (Oct 11, 2007 12:57 pm) WE BOUGHT THE 450 DUALLY DIESEL, EXCELLENT TRUCK! WE DROVE FROM MINN.TO ALASKA, STOPPED IN OREGON AND PUT A 3 SLIDE HOST CAMPER SLIDE-IN (APPROX 5000 LBS FULL). MILEAGE WITH CAMPER WAS 10-11 MPG. LOTS OF MOUNTAIN DRIVING. THIS BABY CAN GO 80 MPH WITH 5.000 LB. IN THE BOX. SO FAR, WITHOUT THE CAMPER ON THE TRUCK WITH 6000 MILES ON THE TRUCK, I'M GETTING 12.5 NOW. THIS IS SOME MIX CITY AND HIGHWAY DRIVING. I'M STILL HAPPY WITH THIS TANK BECAUSE WITH A BIG CAMPER YOU DEFINITELY NEED DUALS! THE DIESEL JUST MAKES IT THAT MUCH MORE POWERFUL AND THIS NEW DIESEL DOESN'T MAKE JOHN DEERE TRACTOR NOISE LIKE THE DODGE. HOPE THIS HELPS. Replies to this message: dyno1 (Nov 20, 2007 7:34 pm) goldman1 (Nov 20, 2007 9:34 pm) dyno1 (Nov 21, 2007 6:03 pm) and 2 more... black450 (Mar 30, 2008 6:05 pm) captu (May 13, 2008 12:26 am)
#42 of 146 F-450 Poor Mileage by goldman1 Nov 05, 2007 (9:37 am)
I've had my 450 King Ranch dually for approx. 4 months with a little over 5k miles on it. The mileage is terrible. I get between 8-10 combined mileage unloaded. I got 6-7mpg. pulling a 5000 lb. trailer. My other truck is a dually crewcab 03 Ford with a V-10. It gets 12-13 mpg. My dealer had it for over a week and they told me everything is in "spec". Why isn't Ford addressing this issue. Edmonds doesn't even mention milage in it's revue. It's great that this is such a clean burning diesel but mileage is also important. Chevy's diesel gets 16-20 mpg. according to owners I've spoken to. If I hadn't already added a liftgate and diamond plate in the bed, I'd be asking Ford to take it back. Ford-Please help those of us who are loyal to the blue oval!
#43 of 146 Fuel Econ. This is not an issue by mschmal Nov 06, 2007 (2:45 pm)
You purchased a truck with a GVW of 14,500 lbs a curb weight of 8,600 pounds (Yes thats 4 tons), and a towing capacity (5th wheel) of 22,000 pounds to tow a 5,000 trailer. BLINK BLINK. I hope you aren't a Doctor, you would probably do brain surgery with a chain saw. The F-450 is a COMMERCIAL vehicle. IT WEIGHTS MORE EMPTY than the GVW of a an F-150. If you don't need this kind of truck but buy one anyway, you have only yourself to blame for the fuel economy. Mark
#44 of 146 This is not an issue????? by floorz Nov 06, 2007 (4:58 pm)
Listen to Mark, he's a ford salesman so you know his opinion is unbiased. He doesn't own the truck, he just belittles anyone who is upset about the outrageously poor mileage this truck gets. His favorite line is "you don't need a truck like this", I would love to see him use that one on the lot. BLINK BLINK Even if Goldman1 was a doctor, I doubt he could pull your head out of your ass! 13,000 miles on an f-450 and still 9 miles to the gallon, yeah I'm tired of your rhetoric.
#45 of 146 Knock it off! by kcram HOST Nov 06, 2007 (6:47 pm)
The personal shots are not allowed in the forums. Your one warning. kcram - Pickups Host
#46 of 146 Where you should really blame Ford. by mschmal Nov 07, 2007 (4:49 am)
Ford should never have made such a heavy duty pickup track that rides so well, is so quiet and so comfortable that people who test drive it forget that this is NOT A GROCERY GETTER but something tough enough to TOW SEVERAL TONS MORE than the nearest competition. As a sales person, my messages is Do Not Buy an F-450 if you don't need that tough a truck. Thats all. People are complaining that it gets lower fuel econ than much lighter less robust trucks from GM/Dodge. But thats not an apples to apples comparison. Next time you see your landscaper drive by in his F-450 Dump, ask him what kind of milage he gets. Ask the tow truck driver what kind of MPG he gets. Ask the Ambulance driver what kind of MPG he gets. Did I mention that this truck WEIGHTS 8600 pounds! Thats about the same as 2.5 Fusions. hmmm Double the weight, half the fuel economy. Is there a relationship? With the heavy tow package, this truck has a 4.88LS rear. Thats something you see on COMMERCIAL TRUCKS! Mark
#47 of 146 goldman1 by goldman1 Nov 11, 2007 (4:33 pm)
Just to set the record straight, I'm not a doctor. I am however the owner of a metals recycling company. I have rented many large trucks and have owned 6 Ford dually crew cab F-350's. Although this is definately a heavier duty truck, no one at my dealership bothered to discuss with me the poorer mileage of this 450 vs my V-10's. I know this is heavier, is a twin turbo diesel and is used mainly commercially. However I have a power lift gate on it and often haul 8-10 55-gallon drums with scrap in them. They can weigh upwards of 5000 lbs. If this truck was going to "radically change" my mileage, the Ford salesman should have informed me. In addition, I've spoken to many new owners and some who have already gotten rid of their new F-450 due to the mileage. Many of them tow trailers with a 5th wheel attached. All of them would now prefer a Chevy or a Dodge. This is a great truck, but the mileage "sucks!"