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Article comments for Full Test: 2008 Ford F-450 Super Duty - For those hauling heavy loads — whether it's an extended horse trailer, a part-time home for recreation in remote areas or even a pair of hobby cars — your steed has arrived. (more)
| I'm just like the rest of you, I have too many problems I bought my 450 February of 2007 and after it being in the shop for 85 days for the same issues each time (lack of power, oil leaks, ac and on and on) I successfully lemoned my truck (december of 2007). The truck weighs less than 10,000 pounds (curb weight is on the inside of the drivers door) as long as there is no aftermarket additions. You must go and re-register your truck for less than 10,000 pounds, this is legal, (mine was at 9,990 pounds) and meet the rest of the conditions to lemon (take the truck to a truck stop and have it weighed with you in it to verify udner 10,000 pounds). If you have installed aftermarkets (extra fuel tanks, 5th wheels, etc) then you can't lemon the truck, even if you remove them they will see the signs of the installation. We lemoned the truck WITHOUT the help of an attorney. Litigation is now pending with Ford regarding lost revenue due to the trucks defects. We will not step down or stop our fight until Ford "owes" up to a truck that CANNOT do the job and almost destroyed my business as a result. I don't care if Ford is a huge company or not they need to be held accountable for their actions! Now, Ford will understand my BOLD MOVE. I said it before THIS TRUCK IS ALL SHOW - NO TOW! | |
When do you lose power? When the truck is is in the regen mode (burning carbon)?
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Replying to: losman54 (Feb 22, 2009 7:19 am) If I get stuck one more time, someone's going to get there ass kicked, Hear That Rich Boy........... |
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I am a marine transporter (I haul boats for people), loss of power is on takeoff. I purchased this vehicle because my 1999 had over 500,000 miles on it (F350) and I went back to Ford because of my current vehicle and the F450 advertising. Loss of power is on takeoff. thedemoguy, you should not have to do anything to this truck, there have been recalls for this as well as many other problems with this vehicle, it is simply a fact of poor design and the refusal of the manufacturers to correct this design flaw and compensate people for their loss of business. My truck has been parked since December 2007 and I am still carrying tags and insurance on a vehicle that CAN NOT DO THE JOB! It is costing me a fortune but I refuse to give Ford my money and my business because of their EXTREMELY POOR engineering. At this point the payment I am making to my attorney is the same amount that I would be making the truck payment for. It is not that I cannot afford the truck as Ford states, it is the fact that the truck is a LEMON and I will not be forced to "roll over" for these people. I have lost a lot of business because my dealers and private customers that I spent years cultivating now refuse to give me their business because they know my F450 was constantly in the repair shop or broken down on the road! My F350 has a saying on the back . . ."Just Holding My Own" that is what we are doing, my 350 is still going for the smaller boats with a huge cost to me because of the loss of the bigger boat hauls. I WILL NOT GIVE UP THE FIGHT UNTIL FORD ADMITS THE DESIGN FLAWS AND COMPENSATES ME FOR THE COSTS ASSOCIATED THE TRUCK AND MY LOSS OF BUSINESS BECAUSE OF THEIR SEVERELY FLAWED F450 DESIGN.
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Replying to: warrior2 (Feb 24, 2009 4:35 pm) I am in a similar situation I purchased my new "Dream Truck" in December of 2007. But my deal is a little different and I tend to disagree with much of the postings before yours... Especially the guys stating that you should cum to expect a commercial truck to only run -out at 80mpg. Anyways, I'll get to that a lil later.I own a excavation company and have been in business in Tucson,AZ for over 20 yrs. I have NEVER owned anything but diesel pick-up since there conception.Before that I was shoe-hornin Caterpillers in 1-ton duallys with custom bell housing adapters and browning overdrive boxes,so I feel ya. I've had over 27 new Dodges and Fords since 1988, all of them I've hot-rodded, or geared or both. I custom ordered a GMC 7500 with a 3126 Cat and a 10 speed in 1997 (a 4-door Monroe conversion  over $79 for cab and chassis) this truck pulled everyday of its life 38kgross and would do it at 115mph ridin on air ,making 13mpg and empty almost 20mpg so dont let em shit ya. My new 2008 ford f450 4x4 4door at delivery emty saw 10.9mpg, but once the recall and flash update(replaced blown radiator RH tank) it does well getting 7.0 mpg empty and 5.4 mpg pulling a trailer with a bobcat on it. My 1996 Dodge dually (my baby) pulls a gooseneck with electric over hydraulic brakes carrying a caterpiller 430D closed cab backhoe (rig weighs 34,670 GCVW) gets 14mpg without propane injection and with propane on 17mpg loaded- empty the dually gets 25mpg on propane.These numbers are nowhere near that of this new piece of-----! I agree with others the ford is beutiful to look at, just not effective and I too have experienced the service engine light, over-heating and tremendous loss of power. If this is any inclination of the next 6 years payments I want out now! Although Fordspecialist.com offers the SCT programmer, DPF delete, and a new exhaust.(programmer relieves the existing govenor perimeters) and gearworks offer a ring and pinion available for the eaton 140 and Dana in the front -these are available in 3:73. Why shoould we have to loose our warranty, spend $12k more in parts just to get the new truck to run and get good mileage? Not to mention, its probably a felony now to remove the DPF.
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Replying to: steveminor555 (Jun 12, 2009 9:59 pm) In any case, I spent a lot of time picking out my next truck and I decided to go with a proven truck. I didn't want to waiting around to see what GM, Ford and Dodge was going to put out as a result of the 2010 emission requirements and in hind sight, I'm glad I pulled the trigger. A regular ton dually wasn't going to do the job chassis wise for me, I decided to go with a Monroe conversion (MTE) GMC 4500 topkick, not only does it get more looks than a European Sports Car, the performance is outstanding. It has the best engine and trans combo out there, it works! Gets 10-12 pulling 16,000 Lbs. and pulls like a dream. Who knows, maybe Fiat will be the only one building diesel trucks in five years! |
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Replying to: warrior2 (Feb 24, 2009 4:35 pm) 
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Can someone give me input on my new 2009 F-450 King Ranch. At this time, it is performing at about 10 miles per gallon at pure highway driving and 8.5 when exclusively city driving all NOT TOWING. At the same time, the exhaust is very black and has lots of carbon inside. Otherwise, the truck is great. I hauled a 17,000 # 5th Wheel from Dallas to Estes Park, Colorado at 70 mph and got 6.8 mpg going uphill north and 7.1 mpg at 70 mph going downhill south. Any thoughts regarding Exhaust Cleaning issue and how to get better everyday driving milage ?????? Thank you for help. Love It & Hate It !!!!!!
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Replying to: john123go (Oct 26, 2009 5:45 am) Welcome to the Love/Hate relationship that most 450 6.4 owners have. I bought mine new in Dec of 08. Black, Loaded, looks sexy just sitting still...But you better have deep pockets son, cause it ain't gettin any better. I have been getting on average 8.5 MPG since it was new. Empty or pulling 20K, doesn't seem to matter. I recently went on a 200 mile highway trip and with cetane booster got about 10.5.MPG. If you add in the cost of the booster, it was a wash. Mine has about 35,000 miles on it now, and although it is running well, the computer is sending the DPF into Regen about every 40 to 60 miles. This means to me that the DPF is damn near plugged up already. I'm taking it in next week to have them check it out and twist their arm to replace it. It should not be plugged already. On it's face, it is a stupid system. There is no way in hell that a diesel engine will perform correctly long term, with the exhaust system being that sensitive. Diesel engines need to breathe big time and this is the 6.4's achillies heel. If you could get rid of the stupid DPF system and recalibrate the computer so the engine would run without it, the truck would probably produce another 200 HP, and run flawlessly for hundreds of thousands of miles. But thanks to the bark eating, whale saving, granola crunching, tree hugging, Reid, Pelosi, Boxer, Etc California style mentality that is overtaking the world, this is what we are stuck with. ( If we don't start Voting Conservative and get these assholes out of there, we are all going to be driving Electric trucks !) My truck has 488 gears which is a large part of the problem with the MPG. There is a company in Las Vegas that Makes an Overdrive kit for these trucks which they say will drop your RPMs by about 800 -1000 on the highway. My guess is that should result in a 3 - 5 MPG increase. The OD kit is about $3,000. I haven't bought it yet, but I probably will. Good luck |
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