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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 17, 2009 6:28 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 17, 2009 7:48 pm) inquiring minds want to know. 
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 17, 2009 8:00 pm) Car and Driver or Motor Trend ran a story on it months (if not a year plus) ago. |
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Replying to: backy (Oct 17, 2009 4:29 pm) 1992 is long ago, as far as midsize sedans go. The 92 Accord didn't even offer a V6 engine, but it was much smaller and lighter than the Accord of today. Some people want every safety item they can possibly get, and some want all the power they can get. My 03 Accord has 100 more horse power than my 92 did, but imo it needs that power to move the extra size and weight. The 03, even with the V6 engine, gets the same mileage as the 92 around town, and better mileage on the highway. I call that progress. Where does this power competition end? It will never end. I would not buy a certain car, just because it has 10 more hp than another, but I will take what ever I can get, in the car I want. There are 4 cylinder versions and hybrids, for those of you who don't want the extra power. I'll take 300hp or even 400hp, if I can get it for my price range.
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Replying to: backy (Oct 17, 2009 7:48 pm) according to article on MSN news. Have 2009 SE V6 since July 2009 now have 10,000k+ miles (travel a lot) 2000k mile trip ave over 31MPG did see 36.1 on trip computer, under controlled driving 47MPH  1300RPM f/ 30+ miles. I also have a Mazda 2.5Lv6-166HP no trip com. best ever calculated about 28MPG O.K. but not good enough f/ HP to MPG ratio, compared to 3.3Lv6-249HP. This some of my research done before purchasing Sonata. For general info purposes. All these were listed in midsize sedan comparison rated by EPA standards, compiled from sites like Edmunds, car&driver, Motor trend, kbb, jd power etc. Check it out interesting! All also 2009 new V6 w/ Auto trans. Acura TL 3.5-280HP 0-60 6.7 17-25 EPA mpg total interior volume 111.3 wt 3708 Aura 3.6-252 0-60 7.3 17-26EPA mpg interior volume 113cuft wt 3613 Cadillac CTS 3.6-263 0-60 6.4 17-26EPa mpg interior volume 112 3874 Altima 3.5-270 0-60 6.0 19-26Epa mpg interior volume 116 wt 3355 Malibu 3.6-252 0-60 6.6 17-26EPA mpg interior volume 112.8 wt 3436 Accord 3.5-271 0-60 5.9 19-29EPA mpg interior volume 115 wt 3600 Mazda6 3.7-272 0-60 6.4 17-25EPA mpg interior volume 118.9 wt 3547 Camrey 3.5-268 0-60 6.2 19-28EPA mpg interior volume 116.4 wt 3483 Fushion 3.0-221 0-60 8.5 18-25EPA mpg interior volume 116.2 wt 3325 Sonata 3.3-249 0-60 6.7 19-29EPA mpg interior volume 121.8 wt 3549 Interior volume is calculated total passenger & cargo. The new road test was done on the Sonata SE V6 mainly because the prior 0-60 was done before the midseason upgrade on 2009 edition, done by independand test group f/ Car&drivers request. I did not try mine 0-60 nor did I try to go 147 miles per hour I will take their word for it. We did not by this thing to race or thinking in any kind of way it is some kind of sports car never saw Hyundai addvertise it as such, they modified the SE to have little sportier look and feel and in my opinion thats what I got, just that! I have had sport type cars before in my younger days, way to expensive to buy and use, gas guzzlers. Thanks for your valuable time and happy driving or car hunting which ever comes first. OH by the way my wife and I luv everything about this car, this is my 22nd car purchase since early sixties and so for is the best. What a warranty. Old days you got 12 month 12K miles, at least Hyundai believes it,s the best.
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 17, 2009 7:06 pm) I was talking about the EPA hwy mpg ratings. Not what one person can get. I think most people can get 2-4 better mpg than the EPA ratings on a pure hwy trip. I believe the Fusion Sport is rated 27 mpg hwy by the EPA. Like I said, a V6 with reasonable hp that is EPA rated at 30-32 would be very nice IMO. |
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Replying to: 8babies1dog (Oct 18, 2009 9:19 am) As far as MPG goes...my 2006.5 Optima has averaged over 30MPG for 34,000 miles.Sometimes more and sometimes less,but overall OVER 30.AC on included.I do drive at posted limits.
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 17, 2009 7:06 pm) Not sure what the Fusion weighs but is can't be much more than the Aura.Try my method and see if you can't get your times down to the 6's at least.
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Replying to: mickeyrom (Oct 18, 2009 10:32 am) |
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Replying to: elroy5 (Oct 17, 2009 9:59 pm) +1 It will never end. I would not buy a certain car, just because it has 10 more hp than another, but I will take what ever I can get, in the car I want. There are 4 cylinder versions and hybrids, for those of you who don't want the extra power. I'll take 300hp or even 400hp, if I can get it for my price range. +2 You may not see the sense in a high-HP V6 for a midsize sedan. But for those that do, they'll take more power in a package that suits them. In the end, that's all that matters. I stand by my comment about the HP for the GM V6. If (and that's a big IF) Suzuki gives a slight bump to the HP (say 260-265), maintains the smaller proportions, AND keeps the weight down, they might have another new owner come next summer. I'll still take one out for a test-drive or two, but I've witnessed the V6 firsthand on both the Aura and Malibu, and IMO it doesn't help to make a sale compared to the Honda, Mazda, or Ford V6.
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