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#18185 of 18194 Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) by cski

May 21, 2013 (4:52 am)

This just in! Read all about it!
 
There is a new, 2 car only; mid size sedan comparo in the June issue, which I just pried out of my mailman's hands. This is a best-of-the-best shootout of the top 2 players in the industry in a winner-take-all contest to prove once and for all which is the best mid size sedan on the market. Period.
 
The long and short of it is that the Mazda won. It wowed the C/D staff with it's driving dynamics, stiff structure, quick acceleration (7.0 secs to 60 vs Accord's 7.4) and spiffy interior.
 
Specifically, they loved the Mazda's seats and style beyond it's price tag, and the handling sealed the deal. FYI! -Chris

#18186 of 18194 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [m6user] by tundradweller1

May 21, 2013 (5:54 am)

Replying to: m6user (May 20, 2013 3:18 pm)
Not to mention the larger rim sizes have far fewer choices when replacing. I researched 19's and they were $pendy. Test drove the Mazda 6 with both 19's and 17's and did not find a handling advantage till you were skidding through the corners. Even then it was a wash. (bought the Sport with 17's) Also they tend to have wider profiles which makes for worse winter driving capabilty. We have 18's on a a Sonata 2.0T and had to buy dedicated 16" rims and tires for winter. Not suprisingly the car rode much nicer on 16's.

#18187 of 18194 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [cski] by jaxs1

May 21, 2013 (6:18 am)

Replying to: cski (May 21, 2013 4:52 am)
Yes, this is what happens when family sedans are rated by people who rank handling and 0-60 times (7.4 seconds is too slow for them) over crash tests, reliability and ride. Now, if there was no compromise made for the better speed and handling, it would be different.
Their rankings would be more meaningful if they were testing WRX vs EVO or Camaro vs Mustang.

#18188 of 18194 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [cski] by backy

May 21, 2013 (6:58 am)

Replying to: cski (May 21, 2013 4:52 am)
There is a new, 2 car only; mid size sedan comparo in the June issue, which I just pried out of my mailman's hands.
 
You need to complain to the USPS. My mail carrier delivered the June C/D issue to me almost a month ago! I think I mentioned the 0-60 results many posts ago.

#18189 of 18194 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [jaxs1] by backy

May 21, 2013 (7:02 am)

Replying to: jaxs1 (May 21, 2013 6:18 am)
C/D said they liked the ride of the Mazda over the Accord's. Reliability? For two brand-new models? Too early to tell, especially given the new powertrains in these cars. As for crash tests, the Mazda6 is an IIHS Top Safety Pick+ just like the Accord.
 
Plus the Mazda was quicker, had better handling, better seats, and IMO much better styling inside and out. Plus the economical Skyactiv powertrain.
 
What's not to like?

#18190 of 18194 Re: 2014 Ford Fusion [tundradweller1] by m6user

May 21, 2013 (7:27 am)

Replying to: tundradweller1 (May 21, 2013 5:54 am)
Yes, I would like to replace my wife's Mazda6 with a new one in about a year. However, to get the bells and whistles you are forced into 19" rims. That is a major downer for me. I would prefer 17", could deal with 18", but 19"s may just be a deal breaker as we keep our cars for at least one tire change, often two. And, living in Chicago area, the extra wide profile do not do that well in the snow and I'm just not into having dedicated snow tires for a myriad of reasons.

#18191 of 18194 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [backy] by m6user

May 21, 2013 (7:31 am)

Replying to: backy (May 21, 2013 7:02 am)
Just the 19" rims on the uplevel versions! And the fact that the Touring level only gets the "pleather". I would prefer cloth or leather or at least the option of one of those. Love just about everything else about it.

#18192 of 18194 mid size sedans with sporting personalities... by cski

May 21, 2013 (8:23 am)

They are all great cars, all variations on a theme. It allows us to make choices on what we prefer. I don't see how proclaiming the 6 the current winner should upset anyone. Heck, the Passat was on top one month, but came in last 90 days later! It doesn't mean it is suddenly a bad car. My Optima's steering is vague, and it is hard for me to feel out the car's limits. I wish I had the Mazda's steering and that X factor that makes it more fun to drive than others perhaps.
 
It's a fickle market, and our arguing proves it!
 
Oh, and Backy...the mailman apologized. LOL.

#18193 of 18194 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [m6user] by backy

May 21, 2013 (8:58 am)

Replying to: m6user (May 21, 2013 7:31 am)
I'd be happy with the base Mazda6 with the 6MT, it has 17" rims I believe. And a price close to $20k. A lot of car for that money.

#18194 of 18194 Re: Mazda 6 GT vs Accord EX-L shootout (June C/D) [backy] by m6user

May 21, 2013 (9:17 am)

Replying to: backy (May 21, 2013 8:58 am)
Agree mostly but two of my present three vehicles have automatic climate control and I've, admittedly, become addicted to that feature. It seems whenever I drive my truck, which doesn't have it, I'm constantly fiddling with the fan and/or temp control to get it right. If the base had that(as an option of course) I could just add the autodim+compass+Homelink rearview mirror and that would do it. I know, I know it's a minor inconvenience but after having had it I just don't want to go back. Kind of like power windows.
 
Obvioulsy, a profit motivated(for shame) marketling ploy on Mazda's part!

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