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#13368 of 14385 Re: Accord vs. 2011 Sonata [benjaminh] by backy Dec 08, 2009 (9:12 pm)
Replying to: benjaminh (Dec 08, 2009 8:52 pm) The 2007 Sonata is a ton of car for what I paid, looks and drives like new, nearly 2.5 years of bumper-to-bumper warranty left, tons of room, very comfy, plenty of pep, and I think very good looking in a classic sedan-ish kind of way. Very nice car, especially considering it's a five-year-old design. But I think the Fusion has superior ride and handing.   I wonder how the 2011 Sonata will look to us in 2016, or 2021? Some cars have classic styling--Audi and BMW for example. They still look good 10 or more years later. The new Sonata is very daring for a family car. Will it stand the test of time? Replies to this message: stephen987 (Dec 08, 2009 9:32 pm) m6user (Dec 08, 2009 10:34 pm) dodgeman07 (Dec 08, 2009 10:48 pm) explorerx4 (Dec 09, 2009 4:35 pm) benjaminh (Dec 09, 2009 4:05 am) berri (Dec 09, 2009 6:26 pm)
#13369 of 14385 Re: Accord vs. 2011 Sonata [backy] by stephen987 Dec 08, 2009 (9:32 pm)
Replying to: backy (Dec 08, 2009 9:12 pm) I'm skeptical about daring styling in midsize sedans. This is not a market segment that rewards drama, especially on the part of manufacturers that are still in the process of building (or rebuilding) a reputation. Midsize buyers are risk-averse, and I think that carries over into styling.   When the '06 Sonata came out, the pundits complained that it seemed dated and derivative, and compared it to the already long-gone '98-02 Accord in its conservatism. Yet four years later, the same basic design still looks nice, restrained, not particularly dated--dare I say "classy"? One could say the same about the Optima too.   Meanwhile the "daring" '06-09 Fusion (an excellent car in most respects) seems like last year's trendy look.   Incidentally, at the risk of going OT, does anyone else out there think the Cruze is a dead ringer for the Sonata/Optima?   Replies to this message: m6user (Dec 08, 2009 10:34 pm) dodgeman07 (Dec 08, 2009 10:48 pm) explorerx4 (Dec 09, 2009 4:35 pm)
#13370 of 14385 Re: Accord vs. 2011 Sonata [stephen987] by m6user Dec 08, 2009 (10:34 pm)
Replying to: stephen987 (Dec 08, 2009 9:32 pm) The '11 Sonata is a pretty radical departure from what we're used to seeing from Hyundai. However, I think if it was a Mazda, Nissan or even a Toyota design we probably wouldn't consider it as dramatic as we are because it's a Hyundai and were used to seeing some pretty bland stuff from them.
#13371 of 14385 Re: I gotta admire your devotion to... [anonymousposts] by jkobty2 Dec 08, 2009 (10:47 pm)
Replying to: anonymousposts (Dec 06, 2009 10:28 am) Yes we still have 3 Leganza's in the family, all 3 running very well, original engine and transmission. My friend with the Honda went through 3 transmissions by 90K when he traded his car in, before the lease was over, for another Honda. Some people never learn. But he leases his cars because he is self employed and then returns them, so he does not care what happens after 4 years. I do not look at the brand name, and I am not loyal to any particular brand, I get the car that I like, and I feel is will be good value and looks good. I maintain it properly, and so far have not been let down. I do tend to pick cars that eventually get a cult following. Check out on youtube the Daewoo leganza. Some people even did music videos for their souped up Leganza's http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_1e-kcYJkc It is also in Guigiaros page http://www.italdesign.it/dinamic/gallery/gallery_scheda.php?id=316&num_rows=1&fa- mily=p&data_p_title=Giorgetto+Giugiaro   I hope my new mazda6 ends up as reliable, because it surely looks good and is also attracting the same type of activity on youtube.
#13372 of 14385 Re: Accord vs. 2011 Sonata [stephen987] by dodgeman07 Dec 08, 2009 (10:48 pm)
Replying to: stephen987 (Dec 08, 2009 9:32 pm) ...does anyone else out there think the Cruze is a dead ringer for the Sonata/Optima?   ----------------------------------   I see some similar lines but the Cruze is much smaller and aimed at the Elantra.   Chevy did a nice job with the Cruze and although it's technically a C segment vehicle and doesn't qualify for this thread, it's EPA Interior Volume is very close to the Malibu (110 cu.ft vs 113 cu.ft) and it has a larger truck than the Malibu to boot!
#13373 of 14385 2011 Sonata by jkobty2 Dec 08, 2009 (10:50 pm)
I love the interior on the 2011 sonata, but I think the exterior is a bit busy. The really nice car coming from Korea will be the 2011 KIA K7. It was designed by an Audi designer and you can easily tell from this video, especially the rear lights and front headlight treatements. A very classy car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2AiitnVj5I
#13374 of 14385 Offer me some suggestions please. by scotschool Dec 09, 2009 (2:59 am)
Last Friday, my girlfriend called me when I was driving on the road. I knew that using cellphone while driving is illegal, but that call was from my sweetie. Suddenly, a drunk rushed across the road, I instinctively turned the steering wheel ... My car almost ran into a lamp pole. I really want to kill that bugger! Horrible!!! I think I need a bluetooth hand-free kit. I wonder if any dude here can tell me where I can get a cheap bluetooth hand-free kit. I hope guys who have ever bought bluetooth hand-free kit respond!
#13375 of 14385 What Do You Think of OEM Products? by scotschool Dec 09, 2009 (3:02 am)
A month ago, I bought a handsfree bluetooth car kit at sinamalls through PAYPAL. The moment when I saw the price I very much doubted the quality of the product. You know, the same item is sold 180 dollars at automobile store, while only 65 dollars are needed on SM. Two weeks later I received the product, to be honest, the quality was not bad. LOL…. My brother seemed very unhappy because he spent 160 dollars buying the bluetooth car kit which has the same function as mine, even the out-looks are the same. I suspect that these two devices are from the same Chinese factory since they are many OEM factories in China.What do you say? Replies to this message: akirby (Dec 09, 2009 7:07 am) 8babies1dog (Dec 09, 2009 8:56 am) m6user (Dec 09, 2009 8:07 am)
#13376 of 14385 Re: Accord vs. 2011 Sonata [backy] by benjaminh Dec 09, 2009 (4:05 am)
Replying to: backy (Dec 08, 2009 9:12 pm) Yes, I think the current Sonata is a good looking design. I think the current Fusion is equally clean and classic.   The new 2011 Sonata is more daring and busy in its design, but I think it's still pretty good looking and is likely to be relatively enduring. It seems slightly more integrated and good looking than my 2008 Accord, but that's probably not saying much. Replies to this message: berri (Dec 09, 2009 6:26 pm)
#13377 of 14385 jkobty2... by iluvmysephia1 Dec 09, 2009 (5:27 am)
the new Kia K7 sedan you gave the YouTube link to will be called the Kia Cadenza. And the reason it has the Audi touch to it is because it's design Chief was none other than Peter Schreyer, the Design Chief Kia hired away from Audi Motors.   Now that is a classy new offering from Kia.

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