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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [backy] by colloquor
Oct 20, 2009 (7:38 am)
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Replying to: backy (Oct 19, 2009 2:01 pm)

Backy - Evidently you misread my post, I didn't say "you" needed to rethink anything, only your friend. Sorry...
 
This appears to be across the board, as the CVT with the 1.8L in the Versa has been a problem too. And, depending on the vehicle, it's very difficult to buy a 6-speed manual without a special order. For example, my next door neighbor's daughter has been looking for a Cube with the manual, and only 4 exist in a 200 mile radius. It appears their stocking percentage for manuals is less than 5%.
 
I've driven the CVT in the Altima, and in the Murano - both rentals, and I like the transmission. But, the continued horror stories of major replacement costs, and rumors of expensive periodic fluid changes scare me away from one for my own use.
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [akirby] by 8babies1dog
Oct 20, 2009 (9:57 am)
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 20, 2009 5:55 am)

Thank you very much (akirky) you have summarized my sentiments exactly!!!!
 
It is a fairly large car for today's standards, according to FO MO CO specs:
 
Length 201.8"
Width 74.5"
Height 61.5"
Weight 3741
Interior volume 108.0 cu ft (not 101 that someone mentioned)
Cargo space
 space 21.1 cu ft with seats in place
total interior 129.2 cu ft
 
Just for comparison the 2009 Sonata is EPA rated large mainly because of the
interior volume which is 105.4 cu ft passenger and 16.4 cu ft cargo total interior,
121.8 one of the largest in it,s class not length or width but weight and Int volume.
Substantial difference, I compared them to each other to make a purchase. Thanks
for the reply.
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [8babies1dog] by m6user
Oct 20, 2009 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: 8babies1dog (Oct 20, 2009 9:57 am)

Something strange here. I just went to the Ford site and copied(cut and paste) some specs for the Taurus as follows:
Wheelbase (in.) 112.9
Length (in.) 202.9
Height (in.) 60.7
Width (in.) (excluding mirrors) 76.2
 
These are the same specs Edmunds has on it's site for the it. I couldn't find the weight on the Ford site but Edmunds has it at 4015 lbs. These numbers are quite different than yours. Are you sure your numbers were for the Taurus?
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [m6user] by stephen987
Oct 20, 2009 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 20, 2009 11:17 am)

m6user: Yours are also the stats I found at carsdirect.com. That site lists the Taurus as having 102 cu ft of interior volume (identical to LaCrosse, very close to Sonata and Accord) and 20 cu ft of trunk volume.
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [8babies1dog] by explorerx4
Oct 20, 2009 (3:23 pm)
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Replying to: 8babies1dog (Oct 19, 2009 11:13 pm)

i hope it works for hyundai and the local population and they
avoid vw's mistakes
 
i wanted an awd mid size, so I had a pretty short list, veering back toward topic.
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [explorerx4] by stephen987
Oct 20, 2009 (3:39 pm)
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Replying to: explorerx4 (Oct 20, 2009 3:23 pm)

Good point--awd midsize sedans are in short supply. Fusion, Legacy, um. . . am I missing any?
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [stephen987] by m6user
Oct 20, 2009 (3:52 pm)
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Replying to: stephen987 (Oct 20, 2009 3:39 pm)

Yeah, the new Suzuki Kizashi that we were talking about has an AWD version.
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Re: 2011 Hyundai Sonata- Game Changer? [m6user] by berri
Oct 20, 2009 (5:20 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 20, 2009 3:52 pm)

Does it seem like a lot of Suzuki dealers have folded?

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