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Replying to: stephen987 (Oct 19, 2009 5:39 am) Where do you get the idea the new Taurus has anything to do with midsize sedans? It is larger than the Impala and almost a foot longer and half-foot wider than a Malibu and is clearly the Ford replacement for the Vic/Marquis. I think Ford even markets it as a full size car. The '10 Lacrosse is less than two inches longer and less than a half inch wider than the Accord. I don't think those dimensions push it into a new or subcategory.
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Will the 2011 Hyundai Sonata be a game changer?The looks are good and the interior seems very nice and Hyundai`s reliability is massively improving. It definitely is much better than the Fusion/Malibu. And unlike GM it`s going to be in business for a while. Especially the interiors look very good. I like comfy rides and prefer my Lexus/Toyota and cant stand the road noise in the Accord but this Sonata can push the Camcord.  Helps keep Toyota/Honda on their toes.Competition is always a good thing for the buyer..Also helps keep prices in check. But must say I was surprised with the Malibu.Probably b`cos it is such an improvement over the previous version. Even the interiors are pretty decent.Definitely a step in the right direction. But with BK, no funds--tough to improve a product even though you have ideas. This is GM`s biggest problem and will not go away. Hence GM needs a miracle.  Fusion`s interior and drive was mediocre. Surprising that it is so popular and is selling well. Malibu is definitely better than Fusion. But at it`s price with good reliability- a decent deal. A used 1 or 2 yr Fusion is a great bargain. And finally the Altima-- the most overrated sedan out there and very pricey for its very average quality.Cheap plastics everywhere , squeaks and rattles in a new car and the drive and handling are very overrated.The car seat material and the fit and finish are so pathetic.The Accord drives much better but has lots of road noise though. Also Nissan`s reliability is very average nowadays with lots of brake and hardware problems. Just cant see how it is worth paying 22k for an Altima which is a POC in my opinion.Very disappointed with the Altima.  Hoping the 2011 Sonata delivers.Can shake up the mid size sedan category putting pressure on Camcord/Malibu/Fusion which is a good thing for us buyers!!
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Replying to: deltheking (Oct 19, 2009 7:47 am) This is defintely your opinion and certainly not any kind of consensus that I've read. I think the vast majority of owners and professional reviewers would disagree with your assessment and is probably the reason, as you say, "it is so popular and is selling well." I tend to agree with you on the Sonata though. From what I've seen of the Korean market model, if they don't change it a lot or eliminate some of the bells and whistles, it will be a much bigger contender than it already is when they start selling it here.
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 19, 2009 7:35 am) The Taurus is the same car that Ford tried to market as the "500" which was a full size sedan. Ford used the "500" on cars back in the 60's with the Galaxy and Fairlane names. For some reason Ford sales of the "500" were really bad. Marketing decided that it was just the name that turned off buyers so they renamed the "500" the Taurus, because the Taurus models sold well. |
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Replying to: acdii (Oct 19, 2009 4:50 am) You do have the ability to start in any gear wit the Ford don't you? |
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Replying to: deltheking (Oct 19, 2009 7:47 am) car in the midsize class that I can think of maybe the Mazda6, 2010 or 2011 may see others follow suite another change f/ Hyundai is in the works. According to auto industry stats I have seen and read about, show slump in sales for all the car makers midsize sedans, except 1, their sales actually jumped up 15% f/2009. Which prompted them to hire more people to step up production in Alabama. I didn't hear about that company getting a hand out of our tax money to stay afloat. The company I bought all my vehicles from since early sixties must not take very good care of their business. They got a big chunk of the tax money bail out and still have serious financial problems. Since 1995 I stopped buying their cars they have dropped 2 of their car lines completely (the kind I bought) and 2 more that has been put on the discontinue or get rid of list. So my conclusion is, if they don't want them I deffintly don't want them either!! Imagine if you have one of those and the dealership closes you got it from and the nearest one is kind of far away who will work on it if needed especially under warranty. Well I have been there with that deal and sorry but not again. I will stick with growing carmakers that put their customers wants on top of their list, and really want to stay in business. I am not that crazy about buying from a foreign company, but at least the 1 I just bought is engineered and built here in our USA and their job looks secure for the near future not like what is going on with some suppose to be BIG DOG companies here. Thanks Hyundai for stepping up your game.
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Replying to: m6user (Oct 19, 2009 9:03 am) I talked with a friend at church yesterday who is looking to buy a new car for the first time in many years. She was thinking of an Altima. I asked her what else she had tried. Drove the Malibu--didn't like it. Drove the Sonata--was OK except the Altima's driver's seat was more comfortable. Doesn't want a Camry--period. Thinks the Accord is nice but overpriced. She has not looked at the Fusion yet. I recommended she do that before jumping for the Altima, as she will do a lot of highway driving and wants a big trunk, and the Fusion does very well in both categories, plus it should cost less than the Altima (although I am seeing some good deals on closeout 2009 Altimas right now). Also I recommended she look at certified used cars e.g. Altima and Fusion, to save some money. |
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Oct 19, 2009 5:21 am) powerful drivetrain, good MPG f/ that generation. Only problem I had with that set up and car was Mass air sensor and fuel pump in tank, had the same problem with all three, I almost forgot a lot of alternator trouble. Kind of miss the bigger car and the carmaker, but if they don't want them I don't either. Best GM engine IMO was the old 283, 327 and 350 4 bolt main but they did burn a lot of gas! Using an old famous closing; "GOOD DAY" |
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Replying to: phaetondriver (Oct 19, 2009 9:34 am) About the only thing that didn't change was the base 3.5L drivetrain.
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Replying to: akirby (Oct 19, 2009 10:35 am)
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