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13361 messages, Last post on Dec 08, 2009 at 4:13 PM
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...is due here next Fall. But from the recently announced specs how is this new entry going to compete in this category with a 188hp 2.4L SIDI engine that is supposed to get 30mph Highway? To me this vehicle would have be be drop dead gorgeous, Lexus/BMW quality inside and out and handle like it was on rails otherwise it will be killed by just about every other midsizer on the road including GM's own Malibu. Why? The rest of the industry has V6's with 250+ hp and fuel economy ratings in the 30 mpg range. The Sonata is dropping its V6's in favor of offering better fuel economy approaching 40 mpg. This sounds so 1995-ish on GM's part. Do they think that Buick buyers are stupid? How would this launch go if gas spikes up over $3.50 next summer? |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (Dec 08, 2009 12:14 pm) |
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Hmmm....I guess so. My 08 Accord is rated at 31 hwy, and 30-31 is about what I get--but that's at 75 mpg, ac on, 4 passengers, + luggage.
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Replying to: benjaminh (Dec 08, 2009 2:09 pm)
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 08, 2009 1:59 pm) Not to be picky but can you name one V6 w/250+ hp that is rated at 30mpg or better by the EPA? I'm not talking real world cause that can be all over the map but actual rated by EPA at 30 or better. I totally agree about the Buick. GM had better start matching up w/ the competition with Buick or it's going to be history. You gotta have something special if you're going to try to market yourself as a semi premium brand like they are trying to do with the LaCrosse especially when you've got a negative perception to live down.
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 08, 2009 1:59 pm) |
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Replying to: m6user (Dec 08, 2009 2:20 pm) The rest of the industry has V6's with 250+ hp and fuel economy ratings in the 30 mpg range I didn't say 30 mpg min. But just to mention two in that range.. Camry V6, 268 hp and 28 mpg Avalon, 268 hp and 28 mpg
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 08, 2009 2:11 pm) So going 70 instead of 75 could mean ~34 mpg instead of 30-31. |
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Replying to: kdhspyder (Dec 08, 2009 3:09 pm) it just makes it seem like you are trying to confuse things. |
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Replying to: benjaminh (Dec 08, 2009 3:28 am) As for manual transmissions... we'll have to see if the 6-speed in the new Sonata is as good as the 5-speed in the Accord. The last Hyundai I had with a stick was a 2001 Elantra, and its shift feel was "OK" but didn't have the Honda crispness. I'll bet though that MT Sonatas will be a very small percentage of the 2011 units, especially with the 6AT with paddle shifters available. |
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