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#17167 of 18213 Start/Stop system(s) by cski

Nov 20, 2012 (11:57 am)

I figured I would add that the C/D long term test BMW had start/stop on the 2.0 turbo, and it had some NVH issues. They quoted " rumbling and stumbling restarts". that might be something to check out during a test drive of any so-equipped vehicle to see how slick the system is. I know that if I dropped $45k on a new BMW and it shook and shuddered I would be less than happy.
 
It is at least easily disabled on the dash, (which defeats the purpose of having it in the first place).

#17168 of 18213 Re: Start/Stop system(s) [cski] by akirby

Nov 20, 2012 (2:38 pm)

Replying to: cski (Nov 20, 2012 11:57 am)
BMW doesn't have much experience with this technology. Ford has had it on their hybrids for over 7 years now. All of the reviews I've read say that it's seamless and not noticeable. It has to do with the engine software and where it leaves the engine when it's turned off that makes it easier to restart quickly and smoothly.

#17169 of 18213 Re: Breaking promises and deadlines.... [sdcal1] by puppybone69

Nov 21, 2012 (1:15 pm)

Replying to: sdcal1 (Nov 20, 2012 11:04 am)
I'm glad I didn't order mine until October. It's been almost 6 weeks now, and I still don't even have a VIN# yet, so I wonder how much longer mine will take.

#17170 of 18213 Focus - pocus by cski

Nov 26, 2012 (5:02 am)

My neighbor came home with a Focus SEL hatchback 2 mos ago, and this morning it's on the flatbed on the way to the dealer.
 
This is the second time. Last time was on Halloween, and the transmission was replaced because a bracket was defective the transmission. This time he backed it out and it would not shift into drive.
 
So....Maybe Ford has launched too many new vehicles at once? I mean Focus, Fusion, Escape and the Explorer are all new, or recent; ground up fresh vehicles.
sdcal, I hope they work it out soon on the Fusion you ordered. Beautiful car.
 
Hope u guys had a nice holiday.
 
-Chris

#17171 of 18213 Re: Focus - pocus [cski] by akirby

Nov 26, 2012 (6:42 am)

Replying to: cski (Nov 26, 2012 5:02 am)
Ford already admitted they've been launching too many vehicles too quickly and that's led to more problems than normal but I don't think that Focus problem is one of them. First one I've heard of like that. Most of the problems are around fit and finish, defective parts or software.
 
Now that they've launched the 3rd gen hybrids including the Fusion/CMax and almost launched the plug-in versions I think they'll slow down the pace just a little and get the problems fixed.

#17172 of 18213 Fusion recall by gregg_vw

Nov 30, 2012 (9:35 pm)

Oh boy, Ford is recalling nearly 90K units of the 1.6 Ecoboost Fusion and Escape, due to overheating and engine fires. Too bad. A great little engine that was released a bit prematurely?

#17173 of 18213 Re: Fusion recall [gregg_vw] by puppybone69

Nov 30, 2012 (9:48 pm)

Replying to: gregg_vw (Nov 30, 2012 9:35 pm)
I'm glad I ordered my new Fusion with the 2.0 EcoBoost engine!

#17174 of 18213 2013 fusion production delays by sdcal2

Nov 30, 2012 (10:15 pm)

Oh my god!!! All of you that said I was over reacting to the stoppage of vehicles i certainly hope you are now eating dead rotting crow. Not only was there one hidden but now two known Recalls including one where they recommend you do not drive the vehicle and they will pay to have the car towed (yes towed not driven) to the nearest dealership but can offer no time frame of when the vehicle will be repaired. This means no repair parts have been shipped to dealers as my Oasis report 24 hours prior showed nothing about this latest screw up. 96,000 plus the 28,0000 equals Ford being complete idiots at launch t">ime!!!
 
Management needs to be replaced!!!

#17175 of 18213 Re: 2013 fusion production delays [sdcal2] by akirby

Nov 30, 2012 (10:54 pm)

Replying to: sdcal2 (Nov 30, 2012 10:15 pm)
The problem with both recalls were European parts and/or labor (headlamps and improperly installed and/or defective freeze plugs).
 
Ford put a lot of trust in Europe with their new platforms and it's coming back to bite them.
 
These are all temporary problems that won't reoccur once they're fixed but it's certainly giving Ford a black eye lately.

#17176 of 18213 Re: 2013 fusion production delays by serenity185

Dec 01, 2012 (3:38 pm)

It's a shame that Ford has had so many issues with their recent launches. The new Focuses, Escapes, and Fusions sound like very nice vehicles, but I'm leery of purchasing any new Fords after hearing about some of the problems they've had. A few years ago Ford seemed to have really good reliability, but these recalls remind me of the Ford of 2001/2002.

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