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#17162 of 18218 telematics user?
by steve_ HOST
Nov 19, 2012 (6:04 pm)
A reporter would like to speak to car owners who use Chrysler Uconnect, Cadillac CUE or Ford's MyFord/MyLincoln Touch. If you use any of these telematics systems, please send your daytime contact information to predmunds.com no later than November 20, 2012 at 1 p.m. PT/4 p.m. ET.
#17163 of 18218 Re: Breaking promises and deadlines.... [sdcal1]
Nov 20, 2012 (2:33 am)
Just out of curiosity, was your original order for the 1.6 with auto start/stop? If it was, that's what caused the delay. I don't know what the problem is with that particular option, but all orders requesting it have been delayed. Maybe they're addressing safety concerns with the fact that it locks up the steering? As far as I know, no other configurations are affected, just that particular one. So perhaps they're just sending Fusions to Flat Rock to install that one option.
#17164 of 18218 Re: Breaking promises and deadlines.... [puppybone69]
Nov 20, 2012 (7:05 am)
There were initial problems with the dies then subsequent parts problems that appear to have now been corrected with the exception of auto start/stop which I also believe is a parts supply problem (uses a different battery and starter motor). The big delay right now is fixing the backlog of vehicles with bad or missing parts.
#17165 of 18218 Re: Breaking promises and deadlines.... [puppybone69]
Nov 20, 2012 (11:01 am)
My order did not include the start/stop with the 1.6. I had the 204A package and you could not get that package on the start /stop so I opted not to get even though it is priced right.
#17166 of 18218 Re: Breaking promises and deadlines.... [akirby]
Nov 20, 2012 (11:04 am)
My original ordered vehicle was manufactured on 10/10/2012 and was part of the group of vehicles slated for the repair/fix. I was told by the dealer that just over 27,000 vehicles were being shipped to Flat Rock for repair. The vehicle I received was manufactured 10/31/2012.
#17167 of 18218 Start/Stop system(s)
Nov 20, 2012 (11:57 am)
I figured I would add that the C/D long term test BMW had start/stop on the 2.0 turbo, and it had some NVH issues. They quoted " rumbling and stumbling restarts". that might be something to check out during a test drive of any so-equipped vehicle to see how slick the system is. I know that if I dropped $45k on a new BMW and it shook and shuddered I would be less than happy.
It is at least easily disabled on the dash, (which defeats the purpose of having it in the first place).
#17168 of 18218 Re: Start/Stop system(s) [cski]
Nov 20, 2012 (2:38 pm)
BMW doesn't have much experience with this technology. Ford has had it on their hybrids for over 7 years now. All of the reviews I've read say that it's seamless and not noticeable. It has to do with the engine software and where it leaves the engine when it's turned off that makes it easier to restart quickly and smoothly.
#17169 of 18218 Re: Breaking promises and deadlines.... [sdcal1]
Nov 21, 2012 (1:15 pm)
I'm glad I didn't order mine until October. It's been almost 6 weeks now, and I still don't even have a VIN# yet, so I wonder how much longer mine will take.
#17170 of 18218 Focus - pocus
Nov 26, 2012 (5:02 am)
My neighbor came home with a Focus SEL hatchback 2 mos ago, and this morning it's on the flatbed on the way to the dealer.
This is the second time. Last time was on Halloween, and the transmission was replaced because a bracket was defective the transmission. This time he backed it out and it would not shift into drive.
So....Maybe Ford has launched too many new vehicles at once? I mean Focus, Fusion, Escape and the Explorer are all new, or recent; ground up fresh vehicles.
sdcal, I hope they work it out soon on the Fusion you ordered. Beautiful car.
Hope u guys had a nice holiday.
#17171 of 18218 Re: Focus - pocus [cski]
Nov 26, 2012 (6:42 am)
Ford already admitted they've been launching too many vehicles too quickly and that's led to more problems than normal but I don't think that Focus problem is one of them. First one I've heard of like that. Most of the problems are around fit and finish, defective parts or software.
Now that they've launched the 3rd gen hybrids including the Fusion/CMax and almost launched the plug-in versions I think they'll slow down the pace just a little and get the problems fixed.