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#17404 of 18212 Re: Motorweek comparison test [backy] by m6user

Jan 27, 2013 (8:52 pm)

Replying to: backy (Jan 27, 2013 5:01 pm)
Maybe the Passat SE TDI needed a moonroof to match up to the other models or something. That may have put it over the limit $ wise. I think it would be nice when they do these comparos if they would explain why they didn't test certain cars that many would expect to be in the group. What the heck could a paragraph cost to print and it would answer a lot of questions.

#17405 of 18212 Re: Motorweek comparison test [m6user] by stickguy

Jan 27, 2013 (9:05 pm)

Replying to: m6user (Jan 27, 2013 8:52 pm)
this was the TV show, not a print article. Pretty sure they said that these were the manufacturers that decided to send them a car to test Honestly don't recall if they mentioned any invited that did not show (they did refer to the Malibu as being to expensive)

#17406 of 18212 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [hill02] by akirby

Jan 27, 2013 (9:51 pm)

Replying to: hill02 (Jan 27, 2013 5:38 pm)
So far it's great. No complaints.

#17407 of 18212 Re: Motorweek comparison test [stickguy] by m6user

Jan 27, 2013 (9:53 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 27, 2013 9:05 pm)
Yeah, I wasn't really refering to this specific comparo test but to all the mags/blogs that do the same thing. Just would be nice to know.

#17408 of 18212 Re: 2014 Mazda6 [lightfootfl] by ivan_99

Jan 27, 2013 (11:05 pm)

Replying to: lightfootfl (Jan 27, 2013 9:40 am)
I can't help but think there might be a ?slight ? exaggeration here....14 hours at 5K
 
Unfortunately not...southern state all the way up to Canada. It was probably closer to 5.5 - 6K rpm. 17 hour trip in 14 hours, but surprisingly good mpg in the low 20's.
 
I think I'll leave this event out of the curriculum when I teach my boys to drive

#17409 of 18212 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [m6user] by mlmcgahee

Jan 28, 2013 (6:12 am)

Replying to: m6user (Jan 27, 2013 3:28 pm)
Nissan CVT explained
 
Mike

#17410 of 18212 Actual 2013 Nissan Altima CVT video..... by cski

Jan 28, 2013 (10:27 am)

This video is more technical and describes the improvements made over conventional....or last gen model CVT's. This unit is in all Altima and Maxima sedans in place of a conventional automatic. A six speed stick is still available.
 
There is no doubt that the CVT is more efficient than automatics in this class.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdqt84_3t-k

#17411 of 18212 Re: Actual 2013 Nissan Altima CVT video..... [cski] by m6user

Jan 28, 2013 (11:30 am)

Replying to: cski (Jan 28, 2013 10:27 am)
So if the new Mazda6 can get 38hwy with a conventional 6spd auto, what would be a WAG MPG if they incorporated a CVT trannie. Should be substantially better I assume. On the flip side, if the Altima were using all the improvements that Mazda has come up with in their skyactiv system then the Altima would probably get substantially better MPG, again assuming.

#17412 of 18212 Re: Actual 2013 Nissan Altima CVT video..... [cski] by backy

Jan 28, 2013 (11:55 am)

Replying to: cski (Jan 28, 2013 10:27 am)
There is no doubt that the CVT is more efficient than automatics in this class.
 
Hmmm... the Mazda Skyactiv 6AT does pretty well for itself, e.g. 40 mpg from a 155 hp engine in the Mazda3, while the Sentra gets 39 mpg (40 with the extra cost FE+ variant) but with only 130 hp; and 38 mpg with a 189 hp engine on the Mazda6 (vs. 38 mpg with 182 hp on the Altima).
 
Looks to me the automatic tranny is not dead yet, compared to the latest CVTs.

#17413 of 18212 Re: 2013 Nissan Altima VS 2013 Ford Fusion, which one would you choose? [stickguy] by m6user

Jan 28, 2013 (12:25 pm)

Replying to: stickguy (Jan 27, 2013 3:32 pm)
The mazda has a bunch of other tricks to up MPG. But the Altima and Accord get very good MPG while also having more HP.
 
I believe the new Mazda6 has more HP than the Altima but gets as good of MPG.

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