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#121 of 193 Re: There is a change in the 2006's [dc_driver]
Jul 21, 2006 (9:09 pm)
I am very surprised that there is absolutely no mention of this anywhere. But, at least I am happy that Mazda has made an improvement with their A/C in the mid to late production models of the 2006's; however, having just done a TSB mod from the dealer, where there is suppose to be some improvement when recycling the air, I am extremely disappointed at the outcome. The mod has not made any difference.
I think it may go down in car history that the A/C is poor in the 2004 and 2005 Mazda3's without climate control. I have a feeling that this TSB was Mazda's last attempt to address this A/C issue.
Jul 22, 2006 (12:32 pm)
My AC has been working much better - I even used fan speed 2 a few times - and the outside temp was over 90 degrees. The minor adjustment I made (explained back in post 74) has really made a difference - yesterday I was getting 46 degree air!
I am at a loss to explain why the AC cools so much better - all I did was add a very small amount of refrigerant -
Since I have a written a few posts (OK maybe even more than 10!) about how bad the AC is - it feels strange saying something good about it - but good is how it has been working.
Jul 22, 2006 (5:30 pm)
I highly doubt that. If a significant amount of owners complained, then I think you might be right. Your sample size is just to small to logically prove such a statement!
Jul 22, 2006 (6:40 pm)
Bill, is what you're saying that you had it at level 1 and only a few times at level 2?
Also, my friend now has an 06 Mazda3. Today, the temps (amb) was 84 and Level 1 was just fine. No way on this earth is Level 1 fine in mine....me really thinking about trading in my 05 for an 06 or 07.
#125 of 193 AC update by ex_tdier
Jul 23, 2006 (8:10 am)
The only time I have ever used fan speed 1 is with the heater. The heater works GREAT - but the low temp in the winter here is normally only around 40 degrees - so that would be like saying the AC works great when its 65 degrees outside.
I always ran the AC on fan speed 3 - it seemed to work best on this speed - the air would be colder than level 4. Less colder air seemed better than more barely cool air.
A few times last week the car actually got cold running on fan speed 3 (recirc always on) so I would kick it down to level 2 for a 4-5 minutes - the car would start to warm up a little - so I would turn it back up to 3.
The strange thing is it was 90 degrees outside and the sun was bright - the inside of the car actually got cold - this is a first - By cold I mean too cold - like its too cold in here!
Even though the AC is still not as good as any of my other vehicles it does seem to cool the car off now after driving 10 or so minutes. Last summer I could drive for an hour down the freeway with the AC on max and the car would never really cool off - sure cool air was coming out of the vents - but the inside of the car never got cold - the back seat would stay hot. But per Mazda this was within spec.
In reality (for most people) the difference between being hot and cold is only a few degrees.
Like in my house - if I have the thermostat set at 78 it feels a little warm, 75-76-77 is about right, but at 74 it starts to feel too cold.
#126 of 193 AC update by ex_tdier
Jul 23, 2006 (11:52 am)
Thanks, that's my experience too. The other day when it was close to 90, I had it on 4 for serveral minutes because the car was so hot, I then lowered it to 3 and noticed it was colder at level 3 than at level 4; however, in the new late production 2006 Mazda3 (2.3L) the A/C is be fine at level **1** up to 85-90F. This is withOUT auto climate control.
#127 of 193 Re: AC update [ex_tdier]
Jul 23, 2006 (12:47 pm)
"really thinking about trading in my 05 for an 06 or 07."
I guess you have to ask yourself, if you have been this unhappy with the Mazda3 and Mazda customer support/service, would you really want to buy another Mazda3? Obviously that is a personal choice, but I had horrible experiences with VW and Saturn and have stayed away.. As much as I like the Saturn Sky roadster, I would not consider buying another Saturn...
#128 of 193 Re: AC update [z71bill]
Jul 23, 2006 (8:55 pm)
My dealer did that for me, added some refrigerant, and it also made a significant difference. Before, the car might as well not have had an A/C since it did no good. Now at max. settings and under moderate temp. conditions it actually can keep the car comfortable.
Jul 30, 2006 (7:53 am)
My dealer checked the AC (refrigerant level)many times - I also had a friend (in the home AC business) check it - per the gauge readings it always had the correct amount of refrigerant.
On one dealer visit - they actually took all the R134-a out - and then filled it back up - this seemed strange to me - freon does not wear out or need to be changed - so I ask them WHY? The answer was - they wanted to be sure they had the correct amount of freon in the system. I took this statement as just another example of a dealership making stuff up / telling a customer something that they know is not right - just to get rid of them. Now I am not so sure.
Since I added / then took out some freon - and the PSI on my gauge did not change - I am thinking maybe the dealership was being straight with me. The small amount of freon I added has made a big difference.
#130 of 193 Re: waygrabow [z71bill]
Aug 02, 2006 (7:14 pm)
I test drove 2 3s today in NYC, it was close to 100 degrees. The first was an S. At the end of a 13 minute minute test drive the A/C was blowing out slightly cool air. The salesman said it was probably low on freon and was baked in the sun so I went to another dealer and drove a Grand Touring for a 21 minute test drive. The A/C was slightly better. I realize that in such heat the car may not be as coll as one would like after 21 minutes but shouldn't the air coming out of the vents be cold? In both cases at the end of the test drive the salesmen said we should gte out of the car to go into th air conditioned show room. I loved the pick up and the ride but this A/C is s bad I think I will have to scrath this car off my list. I have a 96 Altima now and I have test driven a Civic, Corrolla and Jetta and and found the A/Cs in those cars to be comparable to my Altima.