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#119 of 193 There is a change in the 2006's
Jul 20, 2006 (9:53 pm)
As posted on another Mazda forum, there is a change in the airflow of the Mazda3 (2006) could be only for the 2.3L or not, have no info there. But, driving an 06 with a production date of 12/05 had very good A/C at level 1. If you have to have your A/C at level 2 or higher at temps below 90F, you have an A/C issue. And of course, the dealer will always tell you it's performing within the specs or as designed. It doesn't mean the design is NOT faulty just because it's within specs.
#120 of 193 Re: There is a change in the 2006's [ex_tdier]
Jul 21, 2006 (4:42 am)
I think this explains alot. In my 06 3i (I think the build date is May/06) the car is cold if the temps are in the mid to high 80's and the setting is on 1.
I also park my car in a parking garage at work during the day, and on the days where it has been in the direct sun for prolonged periods of time it can take awhile to cool down (sometimes as much as 10 minutes). My 3i is Titanium Grey with black interior. Once it is cooled down it is fine (if it is between 92-100 degrees I have to leave the A/C blower on at least 2).
I have noticed that having tinted windows has helped as well with keeping the car cooler.
I hope that they are able to fix the A/C that many others are experiencing. It has been friggin hot here lately...
BTW, I went to lunch with a co-worker who just bought an 06 Civic LX sedan. It took just as long for his car to cool down and I did not think his Civic A/C worked any better than my 3.
#121 of 193 Re: There is a change in the 2006's [dc_driver]
Jul 21, 2006 (8:09 pm)
I am very surprised that there is absolutely no mention of this anywhere. But, at least I am happy that Mazda has made an improvement with their A/C in the mid to late production models of the 2006's; however, having just done a TSB mod from the dealer, where there is suppose to be some improvement when recycling the air, I am extremely disappointed at the outcome. The mod has not made any difference.
I think it may go down in car history that the A/C is poor in the 2004 and 2005 Mazda3's without climate control. I have a feeling that this TSB was Mazda's last attempt to address this A/C issue.
Jul 22, 2006 (11:32 am)
My AC has been working much better - I even used fan speed 2 a few times - and the outside temp was over 90 degrees. The minor adjustment I made (explained back in post 74) has really made a difference - yesterday I was getting 46 degree air!
I am at a loss to explain why the AC cools so much better - all I did was add a very small amount of refrigerant -
Since I have a written a few posts (OK maybe even more than 10!) about how bad the AC is - it feels strange saying something good about it - but good is how it has been working.
Jul 22, 2006 (4:30 pm)
I highly doubt that. If a significant amount of owners complained, then I think you might be right. Your sample size is just to small to logically prove such a statement!
Jul 22, 2006 (5:40 pm)
Bill, is what you're saying that you had it at level 1 and only a few times at level 2?
Also, my friend now has an 06 Mazda3. Today, the temps (amb) was 84 and Level 1 was just fine. No way on this earth is Level 1 fine in mine....me really thinking about trading in my 05 for an 06 or 07.
#125 of 193 AC update by ex_tdier
Jul 23, 2006 (7:10 am)
The only time I have ever used fan speed 1 is with the heater. The heater works GREAT - but the low temp in the winter here is normally only around 40 degrees - so that would be like saying the AC works great when its 65 degrees outside.
I always ran the AC on fan speed 3 - it seemed to work best on this speed - the air would be colder than level 4. Less colder air seemed better than more barely cool air.
A few times last week the car actually got cold running on fan speed 3 (recirc always on) so I would kick it down to level 2 for a 4-5 minutes - the car would start to warm up a little - so I would turn it back up to 3.
The strange thing is it was 90 degrees outside and the sun was bright - the inside of the car actually got cold - this is a first - By cold I mean too cold - like its too cold in here!
Even though the AC is still not as good as any of my other vehicles it does seem to cool the car off now after driving 10 or so minutes. Last summer I could drive for an hour down the freeway with the AC on max and the car would never really cool off - sure cool air was coming out of the vents - but the inside of the car never got cold - the back seat would stay hot. But per Mazda this was within spec.
In reality (for most people) the difference between being hot and cold is only a few degrees.
Like in my house - if I have the thermostat set at 78 it feels a little warm, 75-76-77 is about right, but at 74 it starts to feel too cold.
#126 of 193 AC update by ex_tdier
Jul 23, 2006 (10:52 am)
Thanks, that's my experience too. The other day when it was close to 90, I had it on 4 for serveral minutes because the car was so hot, I then lowered it to 3 and noticed it was colder at level 3 than at level 4; however, in the new late production 2006 Mazda3 (2.3L) the A/C is be fine at level **1** up to 85-90F. This is withOUT auto climate control.
#127 of 193 Re: AC update [ex_tdier]
Jul 23, 2006 (11:47 am)
"really thinking about trading in my 05 for an 06 or 07."
I guess you have to ask yourself, if you have been this unhappy with the Mazda3 and Mazda customer support/service, would you really want to buy another Mazda3? Obviously that is a personal choice, but I had horrible experiences with VW and Saturn and have stayed away.. As much as I like the Saturn Sky roadster, I would not consider buying another Saturn...
#128 of 193 Re: AC update [z71bill]
Jul 23, 2006 (7:55 pm)
My dealer did that for me, added some refrigerant, and it also made a significant difference. Before, the car might as well not have had an A/C since it did no good. Now at max. settings and under moderate temp. conditions it actually can keep the car comfortable.