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Soft, spongy brakes, grinding noise, REALLY hard to stop downhill by crappybrakes
Sep 02, 2009 (10:31 pm)
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This is making me crazy! I've had a problem with my brakes for about a year. We purchased this van Easter Sunday, 2008. I don't remember when I noticed the brake problem the first time, but they have always been really soft and go almost to the ground when braking. I also noticed when pulling up to a stop sign a very loud grinding noise. In my experience that grinding noise is a BAD thing. According to my dealer, this is NORMAL for Honda Odysseys. Something to do with the material of the brake pads because the car is heavier. But even my husband says this is not normal, and the brakes should not take so long to engage. I have a very hard time getting this van to brake going down hills and am constantly afraid that they will not engage in time for me to stop before hitting the car in front of me. I have owned Honda's for over 13 years, and have never had this problem. I am taking it into the dealership tomorrow (San Juan Capistrano - Weseloh) for the third time tomorrow. I decided to see if anyone else is having this problem and am FLABBERGASTED with the amount of people having the exact same problem. This is not normal! What is it going to take to make Honda fix this problem?!?
 
I'll report back tomorrow and let you know what my dealer says. Dollars to donuts they'll do nothing.
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Re: Soft, spongy brakes, grinding noise, REALLY hard to stop downhill [crap by sonofknud
Sep 03, 2009 (8:53 am)
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Replying to: crappybrakes (Sep 02, 2009 10:31 pm)

Do not let them tell you that is normal. These brake issues are dangerous. Tell them that Honda is under investigation by the NHTSA for the brake issue and you can add yourself to the list by making a claim on there site. I believe they are getting better at fixing the issue (standard bulletins) so you might find that if you read the complete site details.
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Re: 2009 Odyssey EX spongy/soft brakes [westk1] by honda_owner
Sep 11, 2009 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: westk1 (Jul 02, 2009 10:49 pm)

Yes, I had this exact problem on my 09 Odyssey EX. I already report this to Honda customer service. but I did not see any complains on NHTSA ODI's website. This is definitely a serious safety issue.
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Re: 2009 Odyssey EX spongy/soft brakes [honda_owner] by terrip1
Sep 14, 2009 (2:23 pm)
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Replying to: honda_owner (Sep 11, 2009 8:01 am)

It appears they still have not resolved the brake issue on the Odysseys! Yes, the NHTSA is investigating these complaints. Send an e-mail to NHTSA at
Kerrin.Bressantdot.gov. We had a terrible accident with our 2007 when it was only 5 months old. We didn't even experience the soft/spongy brakes before the accident, they just went out altogether!
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07 Odyssey Brakes by aldrink
Sep 19, 2009 (9:49 pm)
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Purchase new 07 odyssey and the brakes started acting up at about 8500 miles loud gringing noise, took it in to dealer they resurface the rotors and changed to so called updated pads, noise came back at around 16000 miles took it in again they resurface the rotors again and changed the disc pads, noise came back again at 25000 miles took it in again this time they replaced the rotors and the disc pads, van is now at 32000 miles and the noise is back again however this time they are refusing to do any fix they are saying the problem is the driver,I gussed they are waiting for the van to reach 36000 miles when the warranty would expire however I have stop using it, this is my fifth honda in five years 3 new, 2 used, never complaint about any other vehicle, found a lemon attorney online they are now handling the case, please file complaint to safecars.gov since there is and open ongoing investigation, I will now switch to toyota instead since honda is not prepared to acknowledge there is a problem with their vehicle.
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high speed braking vibration by steveds
Sep 23, 2009 (11:01 am)
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I have a 06 odyssey with 38,000 miles that I bought recently. The brakes seem good except for high speed braking on a downhill slope. The brakes work but there is a vibration through the steering column. Any ideas on what may cause this? thanks
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Re: high speed braking vibration [steveds] by pdobrott
Sep 23, 2009 (1:24 pm)
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Replying to: steveds (Sep 23, 2009 11:01 am)

You could be activating the ABS system which causes vibration. Otherwise it is warped rotors. If you do not feel it with normal braking then it is ABS kicking in. Warped rotors will always cause shaking in the steering with normal braking. Normal braking to me is gradually slowing down with a light touch. Not 30 to 0 in 100ft.
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High speed braking vibration by my07
Sep 24, 2009 (2:48 am)
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Most likely your rotors are warped. My rotors (on a 07 Touring) started to warp at about 12K miles and the dealer said they could cut them at my cost as they weren't covered under warranty. What a crock! I refused to pay them to correct an obvious design flaw. I lived with it for a while. I had to change the wonderful (NOT) PAX tires at about 28K. I found a non Honda tire shop that carries PAX (and had the best price) and when they were changing the tires I had them check the rotors. They told me that the front rotors were too far gone to cut and would have to be replaced but the back rotors were also warped but could be cut. They wanted over $400 to do the work. I returned to my Honda dealer again to complain about the brakes and they again said they could not do anything as they are not covered. I also called American Honda and got the same run around. I replaced the front rotors myself for about $120. Vibration in the steering wheel when braking hard is now gone.
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Re: high speed braking vibration [pdobrott] by steveds
Sep 24, 2009 (5:38 am)
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Replying to: pdobrott (Sep 23, 2009 1:24 pm)

Thanks. It feels like it could be the ABS. I only feel it at high speed and downhill. I do not feel anything in lower speed, normal braking. Seems strange that the ABS engages in these circumstances.
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08 Odyssey - Brakes feel soft by clzeus10
Sep 30, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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I have had similar issue with my 08 Odyssey where from day 1 I felt that the brakes were too soft and the pedal was being depressed way too much before they would engage and it made me generally uncomfortable.
 
I had not owned a car with ABS before and so I chalked it up to driving a car with ABS for the first time and thought that may be cars with ABS just drive this way. (with heavy persuasion from the Honda service dept that this is how the brakes on Odyssey are suppose to work and it is pretty "Normal") Well after a few thousand miles I still was not happy and so I went back again and told them about the same thing and this time they did the whole ABS/TCS change and may have also bleed the brakes etc.
 
This made things a little better for a while and I could feel the difference between before and after the work. However, gradually after 6 months or so the situation is back where it was again and now I feel that the brakes are again too soft. The car has a total of 11000 miles on it and the first fix was done around 6000 miles.
 
This is my primary car that my wife uses for ferrying the kids and so it has been tough for me to get it to the shop, add my procrastination and general inclination to not deal with these service departments and you get the picture how this can stretch for so long.
 
But anyway, today I dropped the car off finally for the same reason and they are telling me all is fine with the car, "there is nothing wrong with the brakes, they work fine" according to their service person in charge. He told me that two of his techs test drove the car and found nothing wrong with it. When I insisted that all is not well, he said he can have their dept's foreman drive the car tomorrow to see if he finds anything unusual. I am suspecting he won't.
 
When I dropped off the car I asked the Service rep lady if there were any braking issues with odyssey's or any TSB's out for it. She said "there have been no issues with Odyssey's period. And there have been no TSB"s for Odyssey's relating to the brakes or any other issues." Yeah, she was very knowledgeable allright.
 
What should I do next if that is their response and they continue to decline to acknowledge the issue?
 
What do you guys suggest is the best way to get some concrete action from them on this issue.
 
What should be my next steps.
 
Thanks

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