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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 30, 2008 8:39 am) And that's the case for the other mfrs. The problem is the advertising fee and other fees (fuel, etc.) are not included in the online published dealer invoices. They can't be because they vary from vehicle to vehicle and by geographic location. So dealer invoice on a Ford Focus in Michigan might be slightly different than the same vehicle in Georgia. The bottom line is the actual dealer invoice and MSRP includes the advertising fee - it's NOT a fee that is ADDED ON by anyone. The online published dealer invoice numbers are simply not accurate. |
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Replying to: backy (Jun 30, 2008 8:36 am) Part of the reason is that the first brand new vehicle I bought was in 1987. I bought about 20 vehicles before then but they were all used cars/trucks/motorcycles for which knowing the invoice price wasn't really a player for me. I can't remember exactly when I started on the internet but I think it was around 1993 or 94.
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Replying to: m6user (Jun 30, 2008 9:21 am) |
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Replying to: backy (Jun 30, 2008 9:26 am) |
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Replying to: backy (Jun 30, 2008 9:26 am)
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Replying to: m6user (Jun 30, 2008 10:06 am) Time may have diminished your memory of the Dodge. I owned a 1966 Dodge Monaco, a upscale Polara, and it had a conventional shift level on the column for the automatic transmission. According to an entry about the TorqueFlite transmissions in Wikipedia: "The buttons were replaced by conventional steering column- or floor-mounted shift levers in all automatic Chrysler-built vehicles for the 1965 model year." Maybe the Dodge you drove for a month was a 1964.
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Replying to: bhmr59 (Jun 29, 2008 7:16 pm) why do you think ford, GM, and Chrysler are literally hemorageing money, to the tune of 10's of billions a year? if a dealership is selling a car below the invoice price it's almost always because they're getting money from the manufacture. A rebate they arn't telling you about. |
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Replying to: urnews (Jun 30, 2008 10:58 am) Thanks for the research. |
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Replying to: m6user (Jun 30, 2008 6:33 am) The were two different editions: domestic cars, and "foreign cars." |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (Jun 30, 2008 6:30 am) The markup from invoice to MSRP was $1100 or $1150 in April '05. He was willing to give me $500 off MSRP, but then "had to" add $500 adv fee. Yep, it showed on the invoice. Only thing is, he showed me a photo copy and everything was shown in standard type except the adv fee and obviously altered total invoice which was printed in bold face . So, the "invoice price", after the jerk offering splitting the difference between invoice & MSRP came out to MSRP! I was referred by a friend of mine who had recently leased a Mercury and had spoken with the salesman for about 7 weeks. A week later I flew to Florida from CT, visited my parents for two days, and drove home in my new Sonata and saved $1500 after travel expenses. But this was before I knew about Towne Hyundai; and they don't show any adv BS on their invoice either.
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