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Replying to: m6user (May 09, 2008 11:34 am) Neither of us likes to use the telephone much, cellular or otherwise. Our last long distance bill had one call for 2 cents and last local bill shows 19 calls for the month. Like I said before, I know I am an out of touch luddite, which is why I don't understand how you-all have so much need to talk on the phone constantly. |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 10, 2008 7:12 am) |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 10, 2008 7:12 am) I thought we (my family) were the only one's who didn't talk on cell phones constantly.  I think the increasing number of gadgets in today's cars (i-pod connections, navigation, phone accessories, etc.) are only providing more distractions for drivers. Car shopping seems to be less about the car, and more about the toys included. All this would be fine with me, if it were not increasing the prices of the cars too.  Some of us just want our car to be a car, and not a toy box.
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Replying to: elroy5 (May 10, 2008 7:42 am) Some of us just want our car to be a car, and not a toy box. Well stated. I am one of those people, too.
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Replying to: urnews (May 10, 2008 8:08 am) Well stated. I am one of those people, too. I used to feel that way until we bought a Malibu with OnStar navigation and handfree telephone. These toys can be very addictive and not to mention ridiculously expensive. Nonetheless, I still don't own a cell phone and probably won't buy one any time soon. |
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So I just installed a Britax Boulevard in the back of the '05 Legacy wagon (I know, not a sedan but still midsize) and I can't believe how much space it takes up. Right now it is in the center to protect the lil dude better from side impacts, and there is no way for anyone to sit in the two outboard positions unless they are a contortionist. I am positive they could design a child seat every bit as safe and secure without taking up half of the car. The '07 Accord fared better with the infant seat (Graco SnugRide) than the Legacy, which still had a usable back seat, but I think the Britax installed in the Accord would have the same outcome. The other issue that most cars I have seen lack the lower tether (it should be on the floor in the back seat) for anchoring a rear-facing child seat, with the Accord and Legacy being no exception. Now that the Accord is losing its main advantage of having a usable back seat with the child seat installed, buyers remorse just grows. Its not that it isn't a great car, its just not the one for me. |
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Replying to: urnews (May 10, 2008 8:08 am) Well stated. I am one of those people, too. Like someone else said, I used to be like that myself. I told my wife that I didn't want a cell phone and when I'm out doing things like my favorite pastime bicycling I want to be detached from the rest of the world and not bothered. In the car the only time I would ever listen to the radio was for weather updates related to upcoming bike rides or the news. Last fall I bought a Sebring with a MyGIG infotainment system. Now I've turned into a gadget junkie. This thing is so cool I call it my playground on wheels. Heck, I even carry a cell phone with me on my bike now. |
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A reporter is hoping to talk with consumers who had considered purchasing a Hyundai Sonata and ended up purchasing another vehicle. Please respond to ctalati edmunds.com before Friday, May 16, 2008 with your daytime contact information and what you ended up purchasing.
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Just a little engine comparo here Mazda6 2.5L 170hp 6000 rpm / 167 lb-ft torque 4000 rpm Accord LX 177hp 6500 rpm / 161 lb-ft torque 4300 rpm Accord EX 190hp 7000 rpm / 162 lb-ft torque 4400 rpm Mazda6 3.7L 272hp 6250 rpm / 269 lb-ft torque 4250 rpm Accord 3.5L 268hp 6200 rpm / 248 lb-ft torque 5000 rpm I would say that Mazda's 2.5L is on par with Honda's Accord LX. Obviously, the EX has more hp, but, less tq. That's i-VTEC for ya! As for the V6's, I would guess that the Mazda will be quicker, especially with the 21 lb-ft torque advantage, however, curb weight and gearing will come into play. Honda is known for great gearing.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 20, 2008 7:10 am) As for the V6's, I would guess that the Mazda will be quicker, especially with the 21 lb-ft torque advantage, however, curb weight and gearing will come into play. Honda is known for great gearing. Interesting read, avi. One thing I noticed, that I hadn't before, is that the torque in the Honda 2.4 actually peaks at a higher RPM than my 2006 does (4,000 in my 166hp car). Wrong direction! Also, as far as gearing goes, the V6 Accord has relatively short gearing which allows VCM to operate more often. With taller gearing, VCM wouldn't activate as much because the combination of the gearing and the VCM would mean VCM would rarely get used because it didn't provide enough power. So, you may have something there, with gearing, but I suspect Mazda's 6-speed and fatter torque curve will push it to the front if there were a race. The Accord Sedans are noted for having a weaker torque curve than the non-VCM coupes, effectively "missing" some power. There's a reason the Malibu/Aura, with less horses, is faster than the Accord.
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