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Replying to: moocow1 (May 08, 2008 9:05 am) The smart money is on the Citizen, though, like the Mazda. A Mazda 3, for instance, is literally within a few millimeters of the Civic in terms of size, space, and so on, inside, and the features are literally less than a dozen that are different. Despite the Civic's different sheet metal, the 3 and it are near carbon clones of each other. I know. My sister was looking at both and I went over every bit of data and poked around in both for a solid day. It was basically a "pick one - makes no difference" at the end. But Mazdas do cost less, thanks to aggressive financing and rebate offers.
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Replying to: plekto (May 08, 2008 10:31 am)  From what I've seen the prestige of a Mazda is not that far behind a Honda, they're both japanese cars after all. The bigger thing is japanese vs european vs american vs korean.
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Replying to: moocow1 (May 08, 2008 9:05 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 08, 2008 1:07 pm) The current Camry is visually and features-wise WAY more appealing than the "hump backed" looking previous generation Camry. One thing I can say that I like about Toyota over Honda is that you do at least get to pick and choose options on various Camry models unlike Honda where features are based around trim levels. It's a great way for many many folks I'm sure but its kinda a pain for others. But again I understand why Honda does it, and it surely been a good formula that has worked for them over the last 30 plus years. I wish Honda made bluetooth and XM standard on every Accord above the LX. Same thing with fog lights. Same thing with Nissan (who is even worse than Honda) where you can't get a CD6 without leather or even bluetooth without leather on an Altima, yet the lowly Versa and Sentra allow you to get those combinations.
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (May 08, 2008 5:27 pm) I wish every midsize car has standard bluetooth. It really shouldn't cost that much to install at assembly especially if done in huge quantity--maybe a $100. I could care less about XM though. I think if you did a survey of 100 people you'd probably get 80% for bluetooth and maybe 40-50% for XM. Out of my circle(it's not a huge circle but big enough) of friends and relatives I only know one person that has XM and I'm not sure if that is what he has or if it is Sirrius.
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Replying to: m6user (May 08, 2008 6:21 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (May 08, 2008 6:52 pm) I would still rather have built in bluetooth for a reasonalble price though. The system that Hyundai is putting in is nothing more than what I have pretty much. It doesn't sync with the radio to my knowledge. It costs a lot more than mine but then again you don't have to charge it.
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Replying to: m6user (May 08, 2008 7:18 pm) Since the Blueant gets the job done, I wouldn't sell my car just to buy a car with built-in bluetooth, but if I'm going to buy a new car anyway, I'd rather get one with that feature. There is a new, better version of the Blueant Supertooth coming out that has text to speech Caller-ID and a vibration sensor that will turn itself on based when it senses the vibration of your car door slamming shut. You can also answer calls by voice and not even have to take your hand off the wheel to press any buttons. http://www.mycellphoneblog.com/blueant-supertooth-3-bluetooth-speaker/ 
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Replying to: jaxs1 (May 08, 2008 7:31 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (May 08, 2008 6:52 pm) I can't get myself to pay for the content they have on satellite radio. I don't understand the allure or the value there. I like local news and traffic in the morning, and I like the local classic rock or 80s stations during the rest of the commute. I just can't see paying $120/yr for something that is already free. HD radio has better sound quality than most satellite radio systems, and its free as well. I am glad someone has a revenue stream though, the XM revenue stream might help offset the OnStar stuff. But my younger brother works for a Saturn retailer in the Carolinas and he told me that Saturn had a big dealer meeting and explained that the BT system used on the Aura and Malibu would not be compatible with many of today's phones. Different phone manufacturers (and service providers) define the bluetooth vehicle interface protocol differently. Some phones offer more features and connectivity than others based on that interface. Most of the newer systems (SYNC, MyGig) have someway to update the firmware in the HU as more phones come out, and most phones are being tested with these devices. It should keep getting better as they hammer out a specification for the bluetooth vehicle interface.
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