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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [m6user] by backy
May 07, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 07, 2008 9:09 am)

Well, there must be some high ratings there for the Accord, so it might be best to evaluate the car yourself, as it might be exactly what you're looking for--or not.
 
As for quality, that is fast becoming a non-factor in this class IMO, with former stalwarts such as the Camry showing some chinks in the armor and cars like the Altima, Fulan, and Sonata showing very well, and newcomers like the Malibu exhibiting much improved initial quality.
 
Note also that the 2008 Accord has more rankings than any other car on the list. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the scores of the other cars as more buyers rate them.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [backy] by karpediem
May 07, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 12:21 pm)

Note also that the 2008 Accord has more rankings than any other car on the list. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the scores of the other cars as more buyers rate them.
 
Just to get more reviews I looked at the 2007 Altima reviews and 2008, since they are the same car. Total reviewers were 355 and the rating is 9.3 (9.2 '07 and 9.3 '08). I'd say 355 reviews is a pretty good number, as is the 272 for the Accord.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [backy] by m6user
May 07, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 12:21 pm)

I did a test drive an Accord a couple of months ago(LX-P I4 auto) and rather liked it. Was somewhat suprized as I have test drove Accords probably 3 times over the last 15 years and never got a warm fuzzy from the tranny and the steering wheel position. Those were not issues in this 08 test drive. However, in reading the reviews I am noting all kinds of creaks and other noises, flickering headlights, poor mpg on the I4s, etc. Just enough to really make me hesitate.
 
On another note, I just recieved an email from Mazda with a link to configure the new 09 6 the way I liked it including options and colors. Prices were included but noted to be tentative. Here is one configuration I made.
 
MAZDA6 i Touring
  170-hp 2.5L DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder with VVT
  Mileage, City/Hwy (mpg) 22/30 AT
i Sport model features plus:
  17" alloy wheels
  Fog lights
  8-way driver's power seat & electroluminescent gauges
  Push button ignition start
  Leather-trimmed steering wheel & shift knob
  Trip computer & welcome mode
  Mazda Advanced Keyless Entry System
  Anti-theft security alarm
 
The price on this configuration was $23550 which included destination charge. There was no Special Value packages listed.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [m6user] by maxamillion1
May 07, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 07, 2008 6:32 pm)

post a link so we can all build the new 09 6! I'd be interested in the options avialable for the car.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [maxamillion1] by mz6greyghost
May 07, 2008 (7:20 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (May 07, 2008 6:46 pm)

You can't, unfortunately. The link goes to a page related to your specific email address, and once you exit out of the page, it won't allow you back in.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [mz6greyghost] by maxamillion1
May 07, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (May 07, 2008 7:20 pm)

So do you have to own a Mazda6 or have been added to the Mazdausa.com website for addtional info on the new 6? if its the latter hopefully I'll get an e-mail soon.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [maxamillion1] by m6user
May 07, 2008 (9:37 pm)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (May 07, 2008 7:37 pm)

I do own a 6 but also registered on the MazdaUSA website to get info on the new 6 so I don't know which took precedence in getting this email or if a combo of both did it. There were only three configurations similar to the way Mazda packages them now. However, the sunroof was broken out so it didn't come automatically with say the Gran Touring pkg per se. Also a stand alone option was the NAV. The package I copied in my previous post was the second tier pkg. The top tier was $26650. The I4 auto sport was $22050.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [backy] by moocow1
May 08, 2008 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 12:21 pm)

Heck I don't think it's just quality that's becoming comparable. The non-Honda-Toyota makers have finally gotten much closer and/or caught up in terms of the car design/features themselves. I'd say a Sonata, Fusion, Malibu, Mazda6, etc are all pretty comparable with some weaknesses and strengths. It's more about specific wants and needs of each individual now...and obviously price. Heck I'd even put Camry behind most other cars, I just don't enjoy the style of Toyotas currently, although I definitely do like some of the Hondas.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [moocow1] by plekto
May 08, 2008 (10:31 am)
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Replying to: moocow1 (May 08, 2008 9:05 am)

I liken Honda and Mazda to the difference between Seiko and Citizen.. The Seiko is essentially the same as the Citizen, but it costs more and has a bit more bling and name brand recognition.
 
The smart money is on the Citizen, though, like the Mazda. A Mazda 3, for instance, is literally within a few millimeters of the Civic in terms of size, space, and so on, inside, and the features are literally less than a dozen that are different. Despite the Civic's different sheet metal, the 3 and it are near carbon clones of each other. I know. My sister was looking at both and I went over every bit of data and poked around in both for a solid day. It was basically a "pick one - makes no difference" at the end.
 
But Mazdas do cost less, thanks to aggressive financing and rebate offers.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [plekto] by moocow1
May 08, 2008 (11:18 am)
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Replying to: plekto (May 08, 2008 10:31 am)

If we're gonna compare civic vs mazda3, in all honesty, the mazda 3 blows it outta the water. It's got a much better interior and driving dynamics and most reviews will attest to this. I'll note all my friends recently purchased a Mazda3 over a Civic due not to brand, but because it's a better car. It would be like if the Citizen had twice the features of the Seiko. But this is all an aside. I think it's much closer in the Midsize arena than compacts. There is always the whole prestige aspect of any vehicle, I'd consider it just another factor like many others. And the higher the price you're paying, the more you want it From what I've seen the prestige of a Mazda is not that far behind a Honda, they're both japanese cars after all. The bigger thing is japanese vs european vs american vs korean.

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