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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [thegraduate] by lilengineerboy
May 06, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 06, 2008 10:45 am)

Graduate,
The advantage to these systems isn't when you are managing 6 CDs with like 60 songs, they are when you are managing an iPod with 1600 songs. You can also use the steering wheel controls to do that with SYNC to some degree.
I really liked the hands free control in SYNC for the phone and for the iPod. I think that is an advantage over some of the competing systems. I am looking forward to the next gen systems, with Chrysler, Hyundai, and Ford all pumping these up, something cool will be out soon.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [lilengineerboy] by tedebear
May 06, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (May 06, 2008 4:53 pm)

to navigate a list, do you have to push UP on the switch to make it go DOWN in the list?
 
Hmm..I've never noticed whether it seemed backwards. I immediately notice things like an inverted mouse on a game, where when I move it forward I want it to look or move down, like on the control yoke of an airplane. If it was like that on yours the reason I can see why they'd do it that way would be that pressing UP goes up to a higher station number, like the UP on the right side button increases the volume.
 
BTW, if you press the hump in the middle of either button other things will happen. I didn't know that for almost 1/2 year.
 
The latest Gracenote database is 811. Although I updated it mine still shows a few albums with "track01.WMA" or whatever, instead of the title. Strangely, they are part of the same 9-disc music CD set that found names for the others.
 
You said the CD ripping goes too slow. How long is considered slow? When I was building my playlists I would rip two CDs on my way to work and two more on the way home. They usually took around 10-12 minutes each.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [m6user] by aviboy97
May 07, 2008 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: m6user (May 06, 2008 2:18 pm)

I have no idea but it wouldn't shock me to find that most cars already do have some Microsoft tech in them
 
Oh no! Don't tell me that!
 
I guess the Microsoft / Apple discussion does not belong here, however, they are selling more PC's then they ever have before. I have owned Apple computers all my life. I guess you can say they are the Honda's of the computer industry. You just can kill 'em.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [aviboy97] by m6user
May 07, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 07, 2008 6:34 am)

It would be nice if Apple came out with a Sync like system and midsized car manufacturers picked up on it. There, now back on topic. Cheers.
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Honda Accord User Reviews by m6user
May 07, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Interesting that out of all the midsized cars with Carspace user reviews that the Accord has the lowest ratings. In reading a lot of the reviews it seems that overall quality and gas mileage seems to be recurrent themes. When the 08s first arrived it seems a lot of fans weren't happy with the looks but after actually owning other things have cropped up.
 
My question: Is this due to actual quality problems or of hard core Honda fans expectations? I am in the market for another midsized car this year and was kind of looking at the Accord but the more I read user reviews, the more I've strayed away from considering it. Looking for other's opinions.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [mz6greyghost] by jeffyscott
May 07, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (May 06, 2008 10:37 am)

Hey, you said it. not us! JK
 
Oh, I don't view it negatively, I'm perfectly content to be an out of touch luddite.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [m6user] by backy
May 07, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 07, 2008 9:09 am)

Well, there must be some high ratings there for the Accord, so it might be best to evaluate the car yourself, as it might be exactly what you're looking for--or not.
 
As for quality, that is fast becoming a non-factor in this class IMO, with former stalwarts such as the Camry showing some chinks in the armor and cars like the Altima, Fulan, and Sonata showing very well, and newcomers like the Malibu exhibiting much improved initial quality.
 
Note also that the 2008 Accord has more rankings than any other car on the list. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the scores of the other cars as more buyers rate them.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [backy] by karpediem
May 07, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 12:21 pm)

Note also that the 2008 Accord has more rankings than any other car on the list. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the scores of the other cars as more buyers rate them.
 
Just to get more reviews I looked at the 2007 Altima reviews and 2008, since they are the same car. Total reviewers were 355 and the rating is 9.3 (9.2 '07 and 9.3 '08). I'd say 355 reviews is a pretty good number, as is the 272 for the Accord.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [backy] by m6user
May 07, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 12:21 pm)

I did a test drive an Accord a couple of months ago(LX-P I4 auto) and rather liked it. Was somewhat suprized as I have test drove Accords probably 3 times over the last 15 years and never got a warm fuzzy from the tranny and the steering wheel position. Those were not issues in this 08 test drive. However, in reading the reviews I am noting all kinds of creaks and other noises, flickering headlights, poor mpg on the I4s, etc. Just enough to really make me hesitate.
 
On another note, I just recieved an email from Mazda with a link to configure the new 09 6 the way I liked it including options and colors. Prices were included but noted to be tentative. Here is one configuration I made.
 
MAZDA6 i Touring
  170-hp 2.5L DOHC 16-valve inline 4-cylinder with VVT
  Mileage, City/Hwy (mpg) 22/30 AT
i Sport model features plus:
  17" alloy wheels
  Fog lights
  8-way driver's power seat & electroluminescent gauges
  Push button ignition start
  Leather-trimmed steering wheel & shift knob
  Trip computer & welcome mode
  Mazda Advanced Keyless Entry System
  Anti-theft security alarm
 
The price on this configuration was $23550 which included destination charge. There was no Special Value packages listed.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [m6user] by maxamillion1
May 07, 2008 (6:46 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 07, 2008 6:32 pm)

post a link so we can all build the new 09 6! I'd be interested in the options avialable for the car.

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