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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [akirby] by tedebear
May 06, 2008 (2:49 pm)
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Replying to: akirby (May 06, 2008 12:28 pm)

and sync is more than just a neat toy. It's downright useful.
 
Sounds kind of like the MyGIG in my Sebring. I bought it last fall and I probably wouldn't have ordered it with a MyGIG. Now that I've played with it for 8 months I think it's the neatest gadget I've ever had in a car. Hands-free voice control of the radio, sat, jukebox, navigation, phone, etc.
 
Heck, I can even watch a DVD movie while I drive, not that I would ever do that though. It was a passenger enhancement.
 
Also, Harman Becker makes the MyGIG - I don't know what connections they may have with Microsoft.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [tedebear] by lilengineerboy
May 06, 2008 (4:53 pm)
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Replying to: tedebear (May 06, 2008 2:49 pm)

Tedebear, I think the MyGig I got to demo was just goofy, but when you use your left steering wheel control (the unlabeled one on the back where you can feel but not see it) to navigate a list, do you have to push UP on the switch to make it go DOWN in the list? I was very surprised by the lag in the system, the time from when I pushed a button to when it actually moved..I kept overshooting my targets.
I also found that ripping CDs to the HD was worthless, it took forever. The trick is to copy all your MP3s to a USB stick and insert that, MUCH faster. But then if you already have everything on a USB stick, why bother to upload it all to the car?
I did update the Gracenotes library in the MyGig and it recognized a lot more of the files after that. A 200 item list of track 1 track 2 etc isn't so helpful.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [thegraduate] by lilengineerboy
May 06, 2008 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: thegraduate (May 06, 2008 10:45 am)

Graduate,
The advantage to these systems isn't when you are managing 6 CDs with like 60 songs, they are when you are managing an iPod with 1600 songs. You can also use the steering wheel controls to do that with SYNC to some degree.
I really liked the hands free control in SYNC for the phone and for the iPod. I think that is an advantage over some of the competing systems. I am looking forward to the next gen systems, with Chrysler, Hyundai, and Ford all pumping these up, something cool will be out soon.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [lilengineerboy] by tedebear
May 06, 2008 (6:32 pm)
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (May 06, 2008 4:53 pm)

to navigate a list, do you have to push UP on the switch to make it go DOWN in the list?
 
Hmm..I've never noticed whether it seemed backwards. I immediately notice things like an inverted mouse on a game, where when I move it forward I want it to look or move down, like on the control yoke of an airplane. If it was like that on yours the reason I can see why they'd do it that way would be that pressing UP goes up to a higher station number, like the UP on the right side button increases the volume.
 
BTW, if you press the hump in the middle of either button other things will happen. I didn't know that for almost 1/2 year.
 
The latest Gracenote database is 811. Although I updated it mine still shows a few albums with "track01.WMA" or whatever, instead of the title. Strangely, they are part of the same 9-disc music CD set that found names for the others.
 
You said the CD ripping goes too slow. How long is considered slow? When I was building my playlists I would rip two CDs on my way to work and two more on the way home. They usually took around 10-12 minutes each.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [m6user] by aviboy97
May 07, 2008 (6:34 am)
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Replying to: m6user (May 06, 2008 2:18 pm)

I have no idea but it wouldn't shock me to find that most cars already do have some Microsoft tech in them
 
Oh no! Don't tell me that!
 
I guess the Microsoft / Apple discussion does not belong here, however, they are selling more PC's then they ever have before. I have owned Apple computers all my life. I guess you can say they are the Honda's of the computer industry. You just can kill 'em.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [aviboy97] by m6user
May 07, 2008 (9:03 am)
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 07, 2008 6:34 am)

It would be nice if Apple came out with a Sync like system and midsized car manufacturers picked up on it. There, now back on topic. Cheers.
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Honda Accord User Reviews by m6user
May 07, 2008 (9:09 am)
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Interesting that out of all the midsized cars with Carspace user reviews that the Accord has the lowest ratings. In reading a lot of the reviews it seems that overall quality and gas mileage seems to be recurrent themes. When the 08s first arrived it seems a lot of fans weren't happy with the looks but after actually owning other things have cropped up.
 
My question: Is this due to actual quality problems or of hard core Honda fans expectations? I am in the market for another midsized car this year and was kind of looking at the Accord but the more I read user reviews, the more I've strayed away from considering it. Looking for other's opinions.
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Re: Hyundai and Microsoft team up. [mz6greyghost] by jeffyscott
May 07, 2008 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (May 06, 2008 10:37 am)

Hey, you said it. not us! JK
 
Oh, I don't view it negatively, I'm perfectly content to be an out of touch luddite.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [m6user] by backy
May 07, 2008 (12:21 pm)
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Replying to: m6user (May 07, 2008 9:09 am)

Well, there must be some high ratings there for the Accord, so it might be best to evaluate the car yourself, as it might be exactly what you're looking for--or not.
 
As for quality, that is fast becoming a non-factor in this class IMO, with former stalwarts such as the Camry showing some chinks in the armor and cars like the Altima, Fulan, and Sonata showing very well, and newcomers like the Malibu exhibiting much improved initial quality.
 
Note also that the 2008 Accord has more rankings than any other car on the list. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the scores of the other cars as more buyers rate them.
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Re: Honda Accord User Reviews [backy] by karpediem
May 07, 2008 (1:45 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 07, 2008 12:21 pm)

Note also that the 2008 Accord has more rankings than any other car on the list. So it will be interesting to see what happens to the scores of the other cars as more buyers rate them.
 
Just to get more reviews I looked at the 2007 Altima reviews and 2008, since they are the same car. Total reviewers were 355 and the rating is 9.3 (9.2 '07 and 9.3 '08). I'd say 355 reviews is a pretty good number, as is the 272 for the Accord.

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