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Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Kia Optima, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#9556 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [mz6greyghost]
May 05, 2008 (10:13 am)
Of the other Midsize Sedans, Mazda's got a winner IMO. Being a current 6 owner, I'd like to think that my tastes have matured since 2004, and so has the second-gen 6.
I'm right there with you on that.
What I have been hearing is that our new 6 got quite bigger. Not as big as Camcord, but quite possibly near the size of the Altima. The more and more I hear from my Mazda buddies, the more I begin to think Mazda looked at Nissan's success with the Altima, and went that route in engineering the Mazda6.
#9557 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [mz6greyghost]
May 05, 2008 (10:42 am)
Well, neither of your two options apply to me and I do not care about the hatchback or V6 (with or without manual trans), but then I'm not hating the new one. I just like the one I got better (appearance is about all that I can evaluate at this time) and am glad I didn't wait. I had considered waiting, as I thought maybe slightly bigger (Fusion size) would be good.
Because a number of cars were equally acceptable based on more important attributes, appearance and price were really the deciding factors for me in choosing the Mazda6. I doubt the pricing will be as favorable and appearance-wise, I'm not sure if the new mazda6 would be my top pick. I don't really think there is anything that will be out next year that would clearly stand out for me in terms of appearance, like the mazda6 did in 2006-07. But, of course, personal tastes in styling varies.
#9558 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [aviboy97]
May 05, 2008 (11:18 am)
the more I begin to think Mazda looked at Nissan's success with the Altima, and went that route in engineering the Mazda6
I think it had a LOT more to do with sharing Ford's CD platform (I forget if it's CD3 - Fusion - or EUCD - Mondeo - or some combination) which is larger than the previous Mazda6.
#9559 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [akirby]
May 05, 2008 (11:52 am)
The NA Mazda6 is built on the same platform as the 2009 JDM Mazda6 and 2003-2008 NA Mazda6, which is the GG/GY platform that Ford adopted and renamed CD3. Technically, it is a Mazda platform.
#9560 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [aviboy97]
May 05, 2008 (1:53 pm)
It started as a Mazda platform but Ford modified it for the Fusion, then modified it again for the Edge. It doesn't make sense that Mazda would re-engineer the 03-08 platform to make it larger when the CD3 platform was already available.
#9562 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [akirby]
May 05, 2008 (5:20 pm)
It doesn't make sense that Mazda would re-engineer the 03-08 platform to make it larger when the CD3 platform was already available.
But they did, since it was theirs to modify in the first place. It's also known that the next Fusion will be also on the updated CD3 platform.
#9563 of 18159 Re: Suzuki Kizashi 3 to shake-up mid-size sedans [mz6greyghost]
May 05, 2008 (5:37 pm)
So why would Mazda spend all that money to re-engineer the old platform when Ford had already done most of that work with CD3? I'm not saying they didn't change anything, but I'm sure they started with the CD3 platform instead of their old Mazda6 platform. The CD3 was already large enough for the D37 engine.
When the CD3 and EUCD platforms merge I'm sure the Mazda6 will use that one as well. Successful companies don't reinvent the wheel.
#9564 of 18159 09 Mazda6 styling
May 05, 2008 (5:48 pm)
I think most Mazda owners are bummed about no hatch and no mtx in the V6, as am I.
I see a lot of that but a lot are also calling the front end downright ugly and add that the euro styling rear is a lot sharper which I think is a crock. I love the NA version exhaust pipes.
Also, I don't have to dislike my current 07 "6" to appreciate the looks of the new one.
#9565 of 18159 Re: 09 Sonata on Hyundaiusa.com [backy]
May 05, 2008 (5:58 pm)
Personally I've found the 2009 Sonatas are currently about 1500-2000 more compared to the older model currently. A decent spread, but not enough to push anyone away from the obviously better car. It's in my opinion that the new 2009 interior of the sonata is fully comparable and/or better than anything in the accord/camry/fusion/etc. Although I can't say too much about the american mid-sized boys without actually sitting inside.