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#9534 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013] by jeffyscott

May 03, 2008 (6:42 am)

Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 8:22 pm)
the better question would be, if they count the coupe version (and probably the hybrid) separately with the camry, why not the accord?
 
While the model name is the reason, they certainly should have at least mentioned this. Dare I suggest that this is another sign of poor editing/writing ?
 
Not that it would change "best selling model", but this problem is not limited to the Solara issue. GM, Ford, and Chrysler often have multiple versions of the same vehicle. Should Fusion, Milan, and MKZ be added together? Should Malibu and it's siblings be added together? Sebring and Avenger?

#9535 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jeffyscott] by elroy5

May 03, 2008 (7:10 am)

Replying to: jeffyscott (May 03, 2008 6:42 am)
Actually, I was more impressed that the Accord outsold the F150 in March and probably April. Or did they manipulate those numbers too?

#9536 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013] by kdshapiro

May 03, 2008 (7:20 am)

Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 3:32 pm)
Could it possibly be fleet sales were excluded? What you term manipulating may be accurate reporting. Although the article probably should have noted that.

#9537 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5] by jeffyscott

May 03, 2008 (8:01 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (May 03, 2008 7:10 am)
More significant than any individual model's sales, is April had cars, overall, outselling trucks for the first time in 20 years, per article linked in post 9523.

#9538 of 18170 2009 Mazda6 pics by aviboy97

May 03, 2008 (8:09 am)

For all those interested. Mazda's Canadian web site has posted numerous 2009 Mazda6 pics, including interior shots. IMO, the car looks very sharp. Great job by Mazda's design team.
 
http://www.mazda.ca/root.asp

#9539 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [kdshapiro] by elroy5

May 03, 2008 (8:11 am)

Replying to: kdshapiro (May 03, 2008 7:20 am)
Who knows who is manipulating what? I just thought it was about time people stopped buying full size trucks and SUVs they didn't need, and using them as commuter vehicles. Too bad gas prices had to get extreme, before many saw the error of their ways. Most midsize cars (even with V6 engines) get almost twice the mileage of large trucks and SUVs.

#9540 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5] by jeffyscott

May 03, 2008 (8:37 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (May 03, 2008 8:11 am)
Well 50% better, based on EPA numbers anyway. Accord V6 auto is rated 19/29 while F150 is 13/17 or 14/19 depending on engine. This comes to maybe $800-1500 per year less spent on gas for most.
 
Many are apparently trading pick ups for small cars, that would get double the mpg or better, though. They'd likely be saving $100-200 per month on gas at the current price.

#9541 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jeffyscott] by elroy5

May 03, 2008 (8:51 am)

Replying to: jeffyscott (May 03, 2008 8:37 am)
Many are apparently trading pick ups for small cars, that would get double the mpg or better, though. They'd likely be saving $100-200 per month on gas at the current price.
 
All midsize cars are selling well right now, so I think many truck and SUV owners are switching to them. They still want something roomy, comfortable, and relatively powerful, so the V6 models are doing very well. Someone who's been driving a Tahoe, is not likely to go all the way down to an Aveo.

#9542 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5] by jeffyscott

May 03, 2008 (9:25 am)

Replying to: elroy5 (May 03, 2008 8:51 am)
Not clear what "small car means, but the article includes this:
 
Now at last one pickup is on the top-10 trade-in list for nearly every small car model, according to George Pipas, chief U.S. sales analyst for Ford.
 
Midsize sales are up, but so are small cars, the ones I see mentioned are:
 
Chevrolet Aveo +23 percent in April
Focus +44%
Yaris +58%
Mazda3 +15%

#9543 of 18170 Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013] by bhmr59

May 03, 2008 (3:57 pm)

Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 3:32 pm)
Just like Edmund's TCO figures are wrong. If you look at the Sonata, the TCO estimates are based on a purchase price well in excess of real street prices for someone getting a "fair" deal compared to a "real good" deal.
 
Even Edmund's TMV uses a different purchase price than the TOC price. Quite puzzling.

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