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What is this discussion about? Hyundai Sonata, Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, Mazda MAZDA6, Ford Fusion, Chevrolet Malibu, Saturn Aura, Car Comparisons, Sedan


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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013] by elroy5
May 02, 2008 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 7:22 pm)

Ok, so we already know that Consumer Reports is Honda biased. And apparently Edmunds is now part of the conspiracy. Can you enlighten me as to what other publications have been brainwashed by Honda? Do you think Car&Driver are in on it too? A Congressional Hearing may be in order.
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5] by jeffyscott
May 03, 2008 (3:26 am)
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jeffyscott] by mickeyrom
May 03, 2008 (4:50 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 03, 2008 3:26 am)

Will you please stop beating that dead horse.......
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5] by jd10013
May 03, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (May 02, 2008 9:30 pm)

well, what would you call edmunds manipulating the numbers to make a false claim elroy? sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. but it's not a big deal, and nothing most people don't already know. Just a little surprising that they would risk their integrity like that.
 
the part I found amusing was more the reaction here. the way people declared that honda really was right in making it bigger, and it just took people a little longer to "warm up" to it. when in reality the assumptions are based on misleading, if not false, numbers. And in the end, the 2008 accord is selling worse than the 2007.
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013] by jeffyscott
May 03, 2008 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 7:22 pm)

the better question would be, if they count the coupe version (and probably the hybrid) separately with the camry, why not the accord?
 
While the model name is the reason, they certainly should have at least mentioned this. Dare I suggest that this is another sign of poor editing/writing ?
 
Not that it would change "best selling model", but this problem is not limited to the Solara issue. GM, Ford, and Chrysler often have multiple versions of the same vehicle. Should Fusion, Milan, and MKZ be added together? Should Malibu and it's siblings be added together? Sebring and Avenger?
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jeffyscott] by elroy5
May 03, 2008 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 03, 2008 5:42 am)

Actually, I was more impressed that the Accord outsold the F150 in March and probably April. Or did they manipulate those numbers too?
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013] by kdshapiro
May 03, 2008 (6:20 am)
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 2:32 pm)

Could it possibly be fleet sales were excluded? What you term manipulating may be accurate reporting. Although the article probably should have noted that.
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5] by jeffyscott
May 03, 2008 (7:01 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (May 03, 2008 6:10 am)

More significant than any individual model's sales, is April had cars, overall, outselling trucks for the first time in 20 years, per article linked in post 9523.
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2009 Mazda6 pics by aviboy97
May 03, 2008 (7:09 am)
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For all those interested. Mazda's Canadian web site has posted numerous 2009 Mazda6 pics, including interior shots. IMO, the car looks very sharp. Great job by Mazda's design team.
 
http://www.mazda.ca/root.asp
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [kdshapiro] by elroy5
May 03, 2008 (7:11 am)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (May 03, 2008 6:20 am)

Who knows who is manipulating what? I just thought it was about time people stopped buying full size trucks and SUVs they didn't need, and using them as commuter vehicles. Too bad gas prices had to get extreme, before many saw the error of their ways. Most midsize cars (even with V6 engines) get almost twice the mileage of large trucks and SUVs.

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