- #9526 of 13142
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Re: Malibu Vs Accord Vs Camry vs Sonata [captain2]
by explorerx4
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May 02, 2008 (3:14 pm)
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Replying to: captain2 (May 01, 2008 7:21 am)
hey cap, did you notice just about all the duratec engined vehicles went up in sales for april, and most are up the the year too! HA! HA! 
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- #9527 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013]
by backy
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May 02, 2008 (6:56 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 2:32 pm)
Edmunds.com must be counting the Solara separately from the Camry, while other sources do not.
So I wonder if they are consistent and count the Matrix separately from the Corolla?
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- #9528 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [backy]
by jd10013
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May 02, 2008 (7:22 pm)
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Replying to: backy (May 02, 2008 6:56 pm)
who knows, I just found it amusing. when I saw the numbers, I knew something was wrong. accord sales have been going south since the redesign. well, with the exception of the first month or two all the people waiting on it rushed out to buy one. I guess that bothered edmunds enough (since they welcomed it as the second coming) to manipulate the numbers to make it look like the best selling vehicle, and then write some article claiming as much. the only thing I've never understood is the why. Does the staff all own accords or something? do they own stock in honda? I mean it one thing to write questionable comparisons to other vehicles, but it quite another to engage in the kind of sloppy journalism that the before mentioned article engaged in.
and the better question would be, if they count the coupe version (and probably the hybrid) separately with the camry, why not the accord?
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Re: Malibu Vs Accord Vs Camry vs Sonata [kdshapiro]
by oldcem
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May 02, 2008 (8:00 pm)
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Replying to: kdshapiro (May 01, 2008 8:42 am)
Thought you were talking about "refinement". The 3.0 Liter version of the Duratec in my car makes about 240 HP and 206 Ft-Lbs of torque. It's high compression (10.5 to 1) and has a triple level induction system on it. Totally stock - It'll pull strongly from off idle to redline with the smoothness of a gas turbine. It gives my heavy AWD car very respectable performance and decent fuel economy.
Regards:
OldCEM
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- #9530 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013]
by elroy5
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May 02, 2008 (9:30 pm)
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 7:22 pm)
Ok, so we already know that Consumer Reports is Honda biased. And apparently Edmunds is now part of the conspiracy. Can you enlighten me as to what other publications have been brainwashed by Honda? Do you think Car&Driver are in on it too?  A Congressional Hearing may be in order.
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- #9531 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5]
by jeffyscott
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May 03, 2008 (3:26 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (May 02, 2008 1:58 pm)
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- #9532 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jeffyscott]
by mickeyrom
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May 03, 2008 (4:50 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 03, 2008 3:26 am)
Will you please stop beating that dead horse.......
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- #9533 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [elroy5]
by jd10013
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May 03, 2008 (5:20 am)
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Replying to: elroy5 (May 02, 2008 9:30 pm)
well, what would you call edmunds manipulating the numbers to make a false claim elroy? sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. but it's not a big deal, and nothing most people don't already know. Just a little surprising that they would risk their integrity like that.
the part I found amusing was more the reaction here. the way people declared that honda really was right in making it bigger, and it just took people a little longer to "warm up" to it. when in reality the assumptions are based on misleading, if not false, numbers. And in the end, the 2008 accord is selling worse than the 2007.
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- #9534 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jd10013]
by jeffyscott
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May 03, 2008 (5:42 am)
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Replying to: jd10013 (May 02, 2008 7:22 pm)
the better question would be, if they count the coupe version (and probably the hybrid) separately with the camry, why not the accord?
While the model name is the reason, they certainly should have at least mentioned this. Dare I suggest that this is another sign of poor editing/writing ?
Not that it would change "best selling model", but this problem is not limited to the Solara issue. GM, Ford, and Chrysler often have multiple versions of the same vehicle. Should Fusion, Milan, and MKZ be added together? Should Malibu and it's siblings be added together? Sebring and Avenger?
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- #9535 of 13142
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Re: 2008 Accord is selling... [jeffyscott]
by elroy5
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May 03, 2008 (6:10 am)
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 03, 2008 5:42 am)
Actually, I was more impressed that the Accord outsold the F150 in March and probably April. Or did they manipulate those numbers too?
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