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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 01, 2008 5:46 am) Sorry, wrong again.  Two separate sentences, and two separate statements. To that end, Honda’s success in March wasn’t limited to the Accord. Honda was the only brand with three vehicles on the Top 10 Best-Selling Vehicle list. The second sentence does not say For March only, and does not mean just for March. What they were saying is, March was a good month for other Honda cars too, and it HELPED them get three vehicles into the Top Ten for the first quarter. The chart for the 1st quarter is directly under the chart for March, and that's the chart the last sentence was referring to. Not Edmunds fault, if you can't read and comprehend.
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Replying to: captain2 (May 01, 2008 5:47 am) VQ: For improved vehicle performance, NISSAN recommends the use of unleaded premium gasoline with an octane rating of at least 91 AKI number (Research octane number 96). Page 9-3 of 2006 Nissan Altima Owner's Manual 2005 Toyota Avalon Performance & Efficiency Standard Features - 3,456 cc 3.5 liters V 6 front engine with 94 mm bore, 83 mm stroke, 10.8 compression ratio, double overhead cam, variable valve timing/camshaft and four valves per cylinder 2GR-FE - Premium unleaded fuel 91 - Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 31 and EPA city (mpg): 22 - Multi-point injection fuel system - 18.5 gallon main premium unleaded fuel tank - Power: 209 kW , 280 HP SAE  6,200 rpm; 260 ft lb , 353 Nm 4,700 rpm Incidentally, the GM 3.6 recommends premium as well in the CTS. |
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (May 01, 2008 2:24 pm)
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Replying to: elroy5 (May 01, 2008 1:25 pm)  I'm sorry, but the clear meaning of that sentence, as written in that two sentence paragraph, is that Honda had 3 vehicles in the top 10 in March. There is absolutely no indication that they are talking about anything other than March sales, in the paragraph. If they wanted the meaning that you are giving it, then they should have written it differently. Either way, while a minor mistake, it is poor editing. Are we done now?
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Replying to: lilengineerboy (May 01, 2008 2:24 pm) Many of these newer V6s BTW courtesy of these more advanced engine control systems can and will run quite well on lower octanes and further can effectively use the higher octanes. For those folks out there that might have a new 3.3 in a Sonata and want a few extra HP simply put in the higher octane gas although I doubt that any normal driver will notice the difference if he/she is not on a dragstrip. As far as the CTS is concerned, I'm not sure how flexible that engine really is and/or how much the direct injection effects this flexiblility but it is a good engine that obviously runs fine on regular in the Malibu (and several other GM vehicles) and likely would do the same at least in the lower performance Caddys. |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (May 01, 2008 2:59 pm) this would seemingly only make sense although my observation is that the HP difference is as inconsequential as the Camry/ES rating difference would seem to say it is and further that there is even less difference in FE. I have a suspicion that once we get into some of this direct injection stuff found in the 2GR-FSE IS350 Lexus for example and FTM in those wonderful high performance German engines that the engine's tolerance for the lower octane stuff may be limited. Somehow I can't imagine that somebody willing to pay a premium for the privilege of driving cars like that are really too concerned about 30 or 40 cents a gallon, and those mfgrs. know that. |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (May 01, 2008 2:59 pm) |
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Replying to: kdshapiro (Apr 29, 2008 6:28 pm) http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/05/april-car-sales.html#more As U.S. consumers definitively reacted to $3.50-a-gallon gasoline, passenger cars outsold truck-based vehicles for the first time in at least 20 years. The move comprised a shift of six percentage points for the industry compared with last April, to 54 percent car sales. Demand for cars rose 5 percent, to at least 655,000 units in April, compared with 2007, while sales of light trucks – including pickups, traditional SUVs, car-based crossovers, and minivans – plummeted by more than 17 percent, to about 716,000 from 591,000. Specifically mentions increased sales for several mid-sizes: Malibu, Fusion, Camry, Altima, Sonata |
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Replying to: jeffyscott (May 02, 2008 5:01 am) Sorry,  but it was not an editing error. It was a reading error. I understood what they meant. It seems you don't mind pointing out errors you think someone else made, but don't like it when someone points out your own. If you live in a glass house,.....
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Replying to: elroy5 (Apr 30, 2008 8:36 pm) link title and here is a second source: link title I couldn't help but laugh when I read it. edmunds has always had a bias toward the accord, but this takes the cake. they actually post incorrect sales figures so they can write an article about how wonderful and loved the new accord is I guess when you don't like reality, you just change it.
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