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Replying to: lilengineerboy (Apr 30, 2008 2:15 pm) |
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Replying to: captain2 (May 01, 2008 5:42 am) Of course, since CR (a magazine that tests toasters and fabric softeners) is such an "authority" on cars. Right... This thread was seemingly started by conversations about this 'great new Mazda' 3.7, which I regard as still a DT and still a Ford engine. I only wish that the Speed6 hadn't been so short lived. ...And I only wished you weren't so short-sighted. The "great new Mazda 3.7L" seem to have some merit, since it's included in the CX-9, winner of the North American Truck of the Year. Motor Trend picked it as it's SUV of the Year, saying the 3.7L "behaves in a silky, refined matter, accentuated by a sporty growl from the dual exhaust"(Motor Trend, December 2007). Car and Driver named it one of the 5-Best Trucks. I've seen nothing but praise for the CX-9, and the 3.7L is part of the reason. Go ahead and put down the DT based on your limited experience with the 3.0L, but I've always gone on the phrase "Don't knock it until you've tried it." I've personally driven the CX-9 with the new 3.7L, and it's a HUGE step up from the 3.0L in my Mazda6, both in power and smoothness, and it'll make an excellent engine in the upcoming 6.
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Replying to: mz6greyghost (May 01, 2008 6:21 am) 50 or 60 HP will do that, won't it, even in a heavier vehicle like the CX - making it unnecessary perhaps to wring every last bit of available power our of it as you did out of the 3.0. I 'm sorry but the the 3.0 at 5000 rpm is anything but 'fun' and I read the same sort of thing about the 3.5 and likewise have experienced it in the similar Edge - and I'm not nearly the only one - even if you don't like what an organization like CR has to say. It does lead one to the inescapable conclusion that there is whole lot more of the 3.0 in the 3.5 (and possibly the 3.7) than Ford or Mazda would have us believe. I would suggest to you that the CX9 win in TOY has more to do with what the vehicle does unrelated to what happens to be under the hood - as is a tradition of sorts with Mazda products. Mazda, in particular, has always made a specific type of vehicle (call it 'zoom-zoom if you must) and done it well. |
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Replying to: captain2 (May 01, 2008 5:42 am) +1000! The Speed6 is a total marketing blunder by Mazda. That car is a prime example of how not to market a car. autoblog.com reported that a new Mazda6 MPS (Mazdaspeed in Japan and North America) is on the way with a 2.5L turbo and 280hp and AWD. I highly doubt it will make it over here. With the Mazda6 V6 putting down 270hp, I really don't see many people making the jump to the Mazdaspeed. Personally, I really think a new Mazdaspeed6 would need at least 300hp to be a success here in NA. |
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 01, 2008 6:59 am)
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Replying to: maxamillion1 (Apr 30, 2008 11:05 pm) Edit: Just noticed there's an error on hyundaiusa.com. The Compare Trims page says the I4 is standard on the SE and V6 is optional. But other pages, including Build Your Own, are clear that the V6 is standard on the SE. That would explain why the SE costs more than the Limited I4.
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Replying to: aviboy97 (May 01, 2008 6:59 am) |
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Replying to: oldcem (Apr 30, 2008 7:08 pm)  6650 232 ft·lb 2750-4250 . Don't think the Duratech is quite in the same league.
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Replying to: kdshapiro (May 01, 2008 8:42 am) Numbers I have seen, and probably not supposed to see, was 270hp and 268tq for the 3.7 in the Mazda6. |
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Replying to: captain2 (May 01, 2008 7:21 am) You got that right.... |
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